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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    I'm sorta glad this happened because I'd heard that broadcast companies or corporations were pondering suspending or doing away with OTA transmissions. Since I have neither cable or satellite television, and rely only on OTA broadcasts, it would put me out in the cold with no television to watch, I'd end up having to pay someone for some content.

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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    It's a shame that people don't think that content creators have the right to control how their content is distributed. Yes, the content is over air but the content providers have agreed to have it distributed this way. If the service didn't charge, then I think think they would have been on better standing.

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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    Aereo wasn't making money off content, they leased equipment and storage space to the consumer.
    Without the content they are rebroadcasting, they would have nothing to sell.
    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Every manufacturer of over the air broadcast antenna's is making money off content they didn't produce.
    It's different, but you do make a good point.
    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    agreed that it's a tough issue. we need to seriously take a look at modernizing the law. unfortunately, if we did modernize it, the legislation would be written by lobbyists, and then the problem would probably get worse.
    So very true. It's a shame money plays such a part in politics.

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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    Aereo is not renting hardware they are selling a service that consists of retransmitting live and recorded content.

    Aereo - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    From your own link: "Aereo leased each user an individual remote antenna,[6][7][8] allowing subscribers to view live broadcast television and allowed users to record the broadcasts for later viewing.[6] "


    Aereo had no control over what channel the consumer recorded. The leased the hardware.


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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    the problem exists that tv companies still have to pay for such broadcasts. they are only free as in people can get them, but the companies still have to pay broadcasting fee's and other things.

    not sure why another company should profit at no expense.
    Broadcasters sell advertising to cover their costs, Aereo does not strip out the advertisements. They do provide a DVR, which can allow for skipping commercials, but it is perfectly legal for consumers to own a DVR. Aereo provides convenience withouttaking away anything from the broadcasters. The reason broadcasters object is that Aereo competes with the cable companies that pay broadcasters for retransmission.

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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
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    I'm now thinking of buying a Slingbox. It connects to me Antenna/Cable Box and will allow me to stream video to my laptop or smartphone while I'm out of the house, they are making profit on content they didn't produce.

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    Better buy that Slingbox soon, this ruling, or a similar one using this one as a precedent, could be used to ban them.

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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    I'm usually very skeptical of established industries claims in cases like this but I'm confused as to how this isn't a violation of the cable companies rights. Isn't Aereo essentially re-broadcasting their content for profit by coordinating these antenna installations? I'm not sure they are worthy of too much sympathy. Either way I'm not sure why this would have such an impact... who doesn't just stream everything these days?
    Aereo only uses over-the-air broadcast signals.

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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The bottom line is that Aereo sells "free" content produced by others; without that content then they have nothing to sell.
    Aereo does not strip out the advertisements that are included. If viewers don't use the DVR function to skip commercials, they are helping the broadcasters improve their ratings and the advertisers get more eyeballs. Even if Aereo customers use the DVR to skip commercials, the advertisers will have no way of knowing that, so the advertising rates would still increase if there are a significant number of Aereo viewers.
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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    I'm sorta glad this happened because I'd heard that broadcast companies or corporations were pondering suspending or doing away with OTA transmissions. Since I have neither cable or satellite television, and rely only on OTA broadcasts, it would put me out in the cold with no television to watch, I'd end up having to pay someone for some content.
    They wouldn't do that, they still make money with their broadcasts.

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    Re: US Supreme Court rules Aereo's streaming service is illegal under copyright law

    Quote Originally Posted by WorldWatcher View Post
    From your own link: "Aereo leased each user an individual remote antenna,[6][7][8] allowing subscribers to view live broadcast television and allowed users to record the broadcasts for later viewing.[6] "


    Aereo had no control over what channel the consumer recorded. The leased the hardware.


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    That may be the theory but I doubt that is the actual practice. It would be stupid to put 10K antennae and 10K receivers in NYC rather than use a few antennae and a few receivers tuned to each of 50 (or so) desired NYC broadcast channels - the same 50 digital signals can then be streamed to (or recorded for) each of 10K users.
    “The reasonable man adapts himself to the world: the unreasonable one persists to adapt the world to himself.
    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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