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TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘promiscu

Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

Actually, it doesn't matter what she might have said beforehand at all. If she doesn't have the capacity/capability to later retract that consent, then it is still rape even if she agreed to have sex with them earlier.

if she agrees then forgets that she did that is not rape. that is her forgetting what she said. you can't blame a guy for going with something that someone else agreed to.
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

if she agrees then forgets that she did that is not rape. that is her forgetting what she said. you can't blame a guy for going with something that someone else agreed to.

This isn't a case (from the facts being presented to us) where "she forgot" she consented while being conscious the whole time. According to the evidence given to us, she was passed out, unconscious, during at least some of the sexual activity. They, the boys involved, took pictures proving she was. If someone is unconscious, then any sex that takes place during that time is nonconsensual sex, even if earlier consent was given. Even just sexual activity that isn't penetrative would be sexual assault. So far, I haven't seen anything said by the defense or the accused that the girl wasn't unconscious during at least some of the sexual activity that took place.

If it turns out she was not unconscious during any sexual activity that took place, then that would then bring this to a "he said, she said" situation, at least as far as the sex involved.
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

if she agrees then forgets that she did that is not rape. that is her forgetting what she said. you can't blame a guy for going with something that someone else agreed to.

If she is unconscious, it's rape. How the **** do you people have trouble with this.
 
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If she is unconscious, it's rape. How the **** do you people have trouble with this.

we dont' know all the facts yet we are going on assumptions of he said she said.
i will wait for the trial and facts to be presented not what other people are saying.

if she said yes and was so drunk after she slept it off and forgot what happened that is not rape.

more than likely both of them were so drunk neither of them knew what they were doing or what they agreed to.
again i will wait for more facts rather than circumstantial evidence.
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

we dont' know all the facts yet we are going on assumptions of he said she said.
i will wait for the trial and facts to be presented not what other people are saying.

if she said yes and was so drunk after she slept it off and forgot what happened that is not rape.

more than likely both of them were so drunk neither of them knew what they were doing or what they agreed to.
again i will wait for more facts rather than circumstantial evidence.

No. Actually we are going off of an investigation that was started due to tapes from the hallways of the dorms of "suspicious behavior". That is where it started. There are also pictures of this girl drunk and naked (possibly more) with these guys, that the guys took.

Vanderbilt gang rape case: Football star Chris Boyd dismissed - CNN.com
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

No. Actually we are going off of an investigation that was started due to tapes from the hallways of the dorms of "suspicious behavior". That is where it started. There are also pictures of this girl drunk and naked (possibly more) with these guys, that the guys took.

Vanderbilt gang rape case: Football star Chris Boyd dismissed - CNN.com

if all of that stands up in court that they will be punished according to the law.
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

No. Actually we are going off of an investigation that was started due to tapes from the hallways of the dorms of "suspicious behavior". That is where it started. There are also pictures of this girl drunk and naked (possibly more) with these guys, that the guys took.

Vanderbilt gang rape case: Football star Chris Boyd dismissed - CNN.com

According to your link, the girl was carried unconscious into a building and then into a room, and there she was sexually abused. That's rape.
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

According to your link, the girl was carried unconscious into a building and then into a room, and there she was sexually abused. That's rape.

Absolutely.
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

if all of that stands up in court that they will be punished according to the law.

I'm not saying they don't deserve a trial. Everyone does. I'm just saying that it is rape if the facts are what has been presented to us, that the girl was unconscious during sexual activity performed on/with her by these guys.
 
Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

If she is unconscious, it's rape. How the **** do you people have trouble with this.

And they're the same ones who don't believe that a rape culture exists
 
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Im a male. I would NEVER rape or inappropriateky touch a woman, you get the picture. If somebody did rape somebody i have no sympathy for them outside of they get right with God. However i dont believe that every rape case out there that has been investigated is indeed rape. As a right winge, rape is probably one of my centrist apolitical positions.
 
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