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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Thom Paine View Post
    inre: boldWe agree with "justifiable" ( it is BS ); though the phrasing seems to automatically assume the accusation is correct without seeing the "facts". The attorney's motion is reasonable sabre rattling in defense of his client. It lets the plaintiff know she will be thoroughly investigated to establish the reliability of her testimony. If you were accused of a crime and responded with "WTH ? .. that is NOT what happened", it would be appropriate for your attorney to follow the same or similar path. There may be much to shout when this is over but we should not "put the cart in front of the horse". Have a good day Pax Thom Paine
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    Ummm, keep your day job. Unless the laws of evidence has changed, ALL cases of any crimes are thoroughly investigated...or should be and adjudicated thusly. That's what police do.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    That's what nullification is. It's the jury accepting that the case has been proven yet walks the guy anyway based on some other agenda. If you support nullification, that is what you're supporting. Can't just support it in the cases you agree with.
    One would assume that agenda, in this case, would be that it's OK to have nonconsensual sex with a "slut". Would it be equally OK to take her money and car as well?
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Paucity of evidence in the article. However, I would posit that evidence of the accusers promiscuity does not mean that she consented to this sexual encounter. In other words if a girl says yes to everyone else, and no to you....that's still a no.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    fact one there is no rape culture among men. this is a simple false hood.
    this is 2 people stupid drunk that have no clue about what they are doing or what they agree to.

    unless they slipped her a mickey then it is going to be a he said she said.
    if she was that drunk she can't remember then i would have a hard time saying that the boys did anything wrong.

    unless there is video tape or some record of what was done.
    then it changes.

    this isn't a defense of the boys but if you can't remember what you do or do not agree to and then pass out later and forget you can't really accuse someone of rape.
    you should never be that drunk to begin with.
    You're saying that a defendant in a rape case should enjoy constitutional protections and actually require a case be proven beyond a reasonable doubt before they're convicted? What the matter with you? Clearly you're an apologist for the rape culture.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    What "persistent rape culture among men"?
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    Persistent Rape Culture.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
    I don't need your dictionary definitions. I am very much aware of the meanings of the words when they are divided up.

    I'm asking YOU what you meant by that, and what evidence you have to back up your claim?

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    One would assume that agenda, in this case, would be that it's OK to have nonconsensual sex with a "slut". Would it be equally OK to take her money and car as well?
    I'm not the one arguing that a guy should walk if he's been proven guilty according to the law and the evidence because the jury just feels like it.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    There are more than a few issues here; 1) The persistent rape culture amongst some men and the 2) proliferation of privileged and coddled life of star athletes in college who assume rape is a benefit. However, what I find offensive is the assumption that supposed promiscuity and drinking makes rape justifiable.
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    Really? Cause what I'm seeing is a guy who is charged with a crime scrambling to attempt to put forward any kind of defense possible because he doesn't want to go up and go "Yep, guilty, throw the book at me" and because he likely has very little to stand on falls back on such a pathetic and unlikely to succeed argument.

    But I guess that wouldn't lend itself to the ever present need to polticize everything into a "womyns" issue from people like you desperate to always paint individual action as an immediete indictment on society at large.

    If this guy gets off on the basis that she's "promiscuous" then there's something to legitimately be angery about in terms of a failure in our court system. But people accused of crimes cobble together ****tastic long shot attempts at defenses all the time because its a better option than just walking into prison.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
    The Wiki definition you link to states that it is a concept.


    Rape culture is a concept and essentially a myth dreamed up by radical feminists.

    The crime of rape is only commited by a few people which does not support the idea of a culture

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    Ummm, keep your day job. Unless the laws of evidence has changed, ALL cases of any crimes are thoroughly investigated...or should be and adjudicated thusly. That's what police do.
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