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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    stop making generalizations about men that are not true. you have the bigger issue than i do.
    Stop misrepresenting my post. I detest people who lie about what I said. I never made any generalizations that weren't true, as evidenced by links presented to you by other people after my post.

    And I can not prove what I saw at a Christmas party in 1987 any more than you can prove posts about your anything you ever saw, this morning or 30 years ago. So kindly move on from me and don't address me again. You have a beef with the OP's statement about the culture of rape? Yes, well, so do I and I have said it to her REPEATEDLY. Focus your attention on her and kindly leave me alone.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Many is a non-specific quantity. The statistics indicate 3% of all american men are rapists. The US population has 151 million men...That means that there are at least three and a half million male rapists in the US.
    Is that many?
    Anyone including you would have to agree, that it is TOO many.
    Interesting stat. But no man has ever, ever in the history of the world taken advantage of a druken female, don't you know?

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Stop misrepresenting my post. I detest people who lie about what I said. I never made any generalizations that weren't true, as evidenced by links presented to you by other people after my post.

    And I can not prove what I saw at a Christmas party in 1987 any more than you can prove posts about your anything you ever saw, this morning or 30 years ago. So kindly move on from me and don't address me again. You have a beef with the OP's statement about the culture of rape? Yes, well, so do I and I have said it to her REPEATEDLY. Focus your attention on her and kindly leave me alone.
    do i need to requote you again yes you made a sweeping generalization.

    then apologize and retract your sweeping generalization. you ancedotal evidence is meaningless. then you make comments like you made.
    they are offensive and totally uncalled for.

    you just don't like it because you are being called out on something that you can't backup.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Interesting stat. But no man has ever, ever in the history of the world taken advantage of a druken female, don't you know?
    this is a dodge

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    exactly. the problem is we don't know what she said before hand or anything else. i am sure that will come out in the trial.

    the pictures they took are a misdomenor at the worst.

    where do these women come up with these off the top things.
    Actually, it doesn't matter what she might have said beforehand at all. If she doesn't have the capacity/capability to later retract that consent, then it is still rape even if she agreed to have sex with them earlier.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by roguenuke View Post
    Actually, it doesn't matter what she might have said beforehand at all. If she doesn't have the capacity/capability to later retract that consent, then it is still rape even if she agreed to have sex with them earlier.
    if she agrees then forgets that she did that is not rape. that is her forgetting what she said. you can't blame a guy for going with something that someone else agreed to.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    if she agrees then forgets that she did that is not rape. that is her forgetting what she said. you can't blame a guy for going with something that someone else agreed to.
    This isn't a case (from the facts being presented to us) where "she forgot" she consented while being conscious the whole time. According to the evidence given to us, she was passed out, unconscious, during at least some of the sexual activity. They, the boys involved, took pictures proving she was. If someone is unconscious, then any sex that takes place during that time is nonconsensual sex, even if earlier consent was given. Even just sexual activity that isn't penetrative would be sexual assault. So far, I haven't seen anything said by the defense or the accused that the girl wasn't unconscious during at least some of the sexual activity that took place.

    If it turns out she was not unconscious during any sexual activity that took place, then that would then bring this to a "he said, she said" situation, at least as far as the sex involved.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    if she agrees then forgets that she did that is not rape. that is her forgetting what she said. you can't blame a guy for going with something that someone else agreed to.
    If she is unconscious, it's rape. How the **** do you people have trouble with this.
    He touched her over her bra and underpants, she says, and guided her hand to touch him over his underwear
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    We’ll say what? Something like “nothing happened” ... Yeah, we might say something like that.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    If she is unconscious, it's rape. How the **** do you people have trouble with this.
    we dont' know all the facts yet we are going on assumptions of he said she said.
    i will wait for the trial and facts to be presented not what other people are saying.

    if she said yes and was so drunk after she slept it off and forgot what happened that is not rape.

    more than likely both of them were so drunk neither of them knew what they were doing or what they agreed to.
    again i will wait for more facts rather than circumstantial evidence.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    we dont' know all the facts yet we are going on assumptions of he said she said.
    i will wait for the trial and facts to be presented not what other people are saying.

    if she said yes and was so drunk after she slept it off and forgot what happened that is not rape.

    more than likely both of them were so drunk neither of them knew what they were doing or what they agreed to.
    again i will wait for more facts rather than circumstantial evidence.
    No. Actually we are going off of an investigation that was started due to tapes from the hallways of the dorms of "suspicious behavior". That is where it started. There are also pictures of this girl drunk and naked (possibly more) with these guys, that the guys took.

    Vanderbilt gang rape case: Football star Chris Boyd dismissed - CNN.com
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