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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    The President seems to agree with you on that.

    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/29/us...rged.html?_r=0
    Like what sort of policies, exactly?

    A total ban of alcohol on campus, with a severe academic penalty, would be a good start. Segregated dorms would be another.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    still waiting for you to prove your rape culture among men accusation. so far the only thing you posted was 3 irrelevent opinion pieces.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Like what sort of policies, exactly?

    A total ban of alcohol on campus, with a severe academic penalty, would be a good start. Segregated dorms would be another.
    not bad ideas, IMO

    We should require college administrators to report every rape accusation to the police instead of trying to investigate it (ie cover it up) themselves. Similar to the way doctors, teachers and other professionals are required to report suspicions of child abuse and neglect.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    The best you can prove is a 'rape culture' among young collage students, not men per-se.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The best you can prove is a 'rape culture' among young collage students, not men per-se.
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    Good question, worthy of it's own thread. The phrase "rape culture" refers to a way of thinking that systematically trivializes, normalizes, or endorses sexual assault. To that extent, the term means "all men." I wanted to talk about the legal defense the football players lawyers were using but I see my off handed comment about "rape culture" stole the show. So be it. Start a thread about this and I'll join in. (or I can start it...doesn't matter)

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    Good question, worthy of it's own thread. The phrase "rape culture" refers to a way of thinking that systematically trivializes, normalizes, or endorses sexual assault. To that extent, the term means "all men." I wanted to talk about the legal defense the football players lawyers were using but I see my off handed comment about "rape culture" stole the show. So be it. Start a thread about this and I'll join in. (or I can start it...doesn't matter)
    It wasn't a question. It was a statement. Do you know the difference?

    That's ok, we'll just keep using this thread. You're the OP and you brought it up so you must think it's germane to this topic. Thanks for the offer though.

    We saw a source on collage students, but what data leads you to believe any such 'rape culture' exists among all men?

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    i don't have an agenda you made an outragous paint brush comment and i want some backing support for it. if you can't provide a solid study instead of 3 opinion pieces then say it is your opinion and not a fact. it is a totally screwed up opinion at that.

    the reason for this post is because you can't actually backup what you said just like tres couldn't backup her comment either.

    i ran into a similar lady at a job once. she worked for a vendor and we had to work in the same building. i reported her to my superiors due to comments that she was making along the same lines. her bosses told her to shut it and stop.

    she thought people were watching her through the windows, she thought that men were waiting outside to get her.

    so the only ideological dogma here is that there is a rapist culture in men. it is one of the most disgusting things i have ever read in my life and you should be ashamed of yourself.
    more so when you can't even back it up except with propaganda.

    the amount of men/women that rape other people is a small segment of the population as a whole.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Like what sort of policies, exactly?

    A total ban of alcohol on campus, with a severe academic penalty, would be a good start. Segregated dorms would be another.
    they will find another place to party and most campuses don't allow alcohol in the dorms or anything else anyway.
    the problem is getting that drunk to the point that you pass out. that is quite a bit of alchol unless they slipped her something.

    roofies are still a problem in college, but only real low life use it.
    most dorms are segrated depending and even if they aren't you are suppose to be on other floors at night.

    the only way to really combat it is to for really hit awarness and the dangers of alcohol.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    they will find another place to party and most campuses don't allow alcohol in the dorms or anything else anyway.
    the problem is getting that drunk to the point that you pass out. that is quite a bit of alchol unless they slipped her something.

    roofies are still a problem in college, but only real low life use it.
    most dorms are segrated depending and even if they aren't you are suppose to be on other floors at night.

    the only way to really combat it is to for really hit awarness and the dangers of alcohol.
    This is why NY wants to rais the drinking age to 25....while my state wants to lower it to 18 lol. We have SDSU, School on Mines and a coiple tech schools but underage drinking is a big problem here.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    The best you can prove is a 'rape culture' among young collage students, not men per-se.
    Male college students are not "some men"?
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