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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    I agree with most of that, except the part about it being the job. The job of the defense attorney is to legally represent their clients before the law. It is not (or should not be), as it has come to be known, to get their clients off even when they know they are guilty.
    In the real world, it is
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Yet, you're ready to hang any man accused of rape without a trial.
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    I don't think so. However, if that's what you want to believe, have at it.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Paxaeon View Post
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    I don't think so. However, if that's what you want to believe, have at it.
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    still waiting for you to prove your rape culture among men accusation. so far the only thing you posted was 3 irrelevent opinion pieces.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    That would have been a great source to have in the OP.

    I would point out that your link says that sex with a woman who is drunk is still rape. I think that's some dangerous grey area.
    It also says
    e, Koss, Gidycz, and Wisniewski (1987) found that nearly 20% of
    college-aged males reported obtaining some type of sexual contact through coercion, with
    1% reporting perpetration of oral or anal penetration through the use of physical force.
    Based on a small convenience sample of university men, Tyler, Hoyt, and Whitbeck (1998)
    found that 3% of male respondents reported using physical force to obtain sexual
    intercourse and 23% used alcohol or drugs to obtain sexual intercourse—prevalence rates
    that were surprisingly similar to the
    You may also want read what it says about fraternities on page 2-11
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    It also says
    You may also want read what it says about fraternities on page 2-11
    And where are we going with this?

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    And where are we going with this?
    Oh, I don't know.

    The fact that a significant portion of college males they surveyed have used force, alcohol and drugs to get sex might have some relevance to a discussion about whether a significant number of males believe that it's OK to have sex with someone who is unconscious from alcohol or drugs.

    Or maybe not
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    In a way I can kinda see where the kid is coming from, though it won't save him in court. If you live in a roommate situation and you frequently buy food for everyone...what real difference does it make if someone has some of that food while you're sleeping? You already established that it's basically community property anyway.

    So, yeah, it's not going to save him in court, he should have picked up a book instead of a bottle and kept the girls out of his room, because this is exactly the sort of trap women lay to catch men in. It's perfectly avoidable, though, and he has only himself to blame. I highly doubt this girl truly minds (or if she even noticed until someone told her and she felt guilty), I think she just sees the money to be had.

    Collages should really do more to protect themselves from this sort of thing.
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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Oh, I don't know.

    The fact that a significant portion of college males they surveyed have used force, alcohol and drugs to get sex might have some relevance to a discussion about whether a significant number of males believe that it's OK to have sex with someone who is unconscious from alcohol or drugs.

    Or maybe not
    Let's consider our collective finger wagged in their general direction, then.

    Now what? Has OP established a ChipIn for rape victims or something?

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post

    Collages should really do more to protect themselves from this sort of thing.
    The President seems to agree with you on that.
    White House to Press Colleges to Do More to Combat Rape
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    WASHINGTON — Reacting to a series of highly publicized rapes on college campuses, the White House on Monday released guidelines that increase the pressure on universities to more aggressively combat sexual assaults on campus.

    The recommendations urge colleges, among other measures, to conduct anonymous surveys about sexual assault cases, adopt anti-assault policies that have been considered successful at other universities and to better ensure that the reports of such crimes remain confidential. The guidelines are contained in a report by a White House task force that President Obama formed early this year, and the administration is likely to ask Congress to pass measures that would enforce the recommendations and levy penalties for failing to do so. The government will also open a website, NotAlone.gov, to track enforcement and provide victims with information.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2014/04/29/us...rged.html?_r=0

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    Let's consider our collective finger wagged in their general direction, then.
    that's a start!!
    Now what? Has OP established a ChipIn for rape victims or something?
    I have no idea what that means
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