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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Well, Jerry, my other post explained why I said that. I don't know how you got out of it that people I hang around with think that.

    And the reality is, up to and including the OP, the fact is men have thought that. I said "many" men because I saw it back 30 years ago, and unless something changed, I assume many men over the years have thought it. I gave some specific examples in a later post, and if you read them, I mentioned instances that I was aware of in college (in the early 1980s), and 1 instance where I witnessed it myself while at a work party, also in the 1980s.

    If you notice, I am also offended by and pushing back on the OP claim that this is a cultural thing. A few yahoos don't make a culture or even indicate it's a systemic view.
    When you say "many men" on a debate forum, that means you've read a credible survey and have a real number to link to. Please do so.

    Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When you say "many men" on a debate forum, that means you've read a credible survey and have a real number to link to. Please do so.

    Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.
    Or speaking from personal experience.
    That is a credible source.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Buck Ewer View Post
    Or speaking from personal experience.
    That is a credible source.
    Actually it's not because you would have to make your personal information available to everyone, to verify that you even went to collage, and to look into assaults during the years of your attendance...and that's against forum rules.

    Personal experience can help you find credible sources which others can look at, but no one can verify that anything you say is actually true.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    When you say "many men" on a debate forum, that means you've read a credible survey and have a real number to link to. Please do so.

    Otherwise you're just talking out of your ass.
    I never mentioined a survey, and if you read my posts, Jerry, you will see why I said it. I said it based on personal experience over the course of 30 years, Jerry. That is THE most credible source I have.

    And if you are denying that any man in history took advantage of a drunken woman, then you are as unrealistic as the OP who suggested it's cultural.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by Gardener View Post
    One might as well refer to a "persistant child molestation culture".



    oops -- I think I might have just given her some ideas...........
    That already exists.

    I have been told that I am male so I am guilty.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Excuse me? "These women"?

    I was not talking about the situation in the OP when I posted what I did. I said I had seen it for myself - and I have.
    yes these women because only those types of women say stupid stuff like this, and I quote

    Many men have always thought it was okay to have sex with someone who is passed out or can't stop the act. That isn't new.
    really you have a study? you have any real evidence to support this?
    do you want a wider paint brush or will you retract and apologize.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I never mentioined a survey, and if you read my posts, Jerry, you will see why I said it. I said it based on personal experience over the course of 30 years, Jerry. That is THE most credible source I have.

    And if you are denying that any man in history took advantage of a drunken woman, then you are as unrealistic as the OP who suggested it's cultural.
    personal experience is ancedotal evidence which means it is meaningless. your limited experience with the millions of men in this world is meaningless.
    either provide a study or survey that suggest what you said is valid or retract it and apologize.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I never mentioined a survey, and if you read my posts, Jerry, you will see why I said it. I said it based on personal experience over the course of 30 years, Jerry. That is THE most credible source I have.

    And if you are denying that any man in history took advantage of a drunken woman, then you are as unrealistic as the OP who suggested it's cultural.
    Believe everything you read on the internet, do you? I don't. I've learned that people lie, and the only way to tell who's lying is to check their 'facts', and that requires having a look at their source material.

    How many is 'many', exactly? 2 books is literally a 'library'. 2 pistols is literally an 'arsenal'. 2 concurrent identical illnesses is an 'outbreak'. So when you say 'many men' do you mean 2 men? 4? 30% of your graduating class? How many?

    How many men did you actually know in the first place, to know you had a representative sample?

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by ludin View Post
    yes these women because only those types of women say stupid stuff like this, and I quote



    really you have a study? you have any real evidence to support this?
    do you want a wider paint brush or will you retract and apologize.
    No, I have no study, and I am a woman, so if you objected to my post, please direct it at me and not Jerry.

    I said what I said based on what I saw in over 30 years.

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    Re: TN football player wants rape case dismissed because unconscious victim was ‘prom

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    So one false accusation of rape means that all accusations are false?
    It wasn't the first
    Climate, changes. It takes a particularly uneducated population to buy into the idea that it's their fault climate is changing and further political solutions can fix it.



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