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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by annata View Post
    TOW missiles/training..it's an incredibly stupid thing to do

    SA-7's from Libya ( MNAPADS) another glorious Obama screw up
    Congress secretly approves U.S. weapons flow to 'moderate' Syrian rebels | Reuters

    Obama Seeks Congress Approval For $500m to Arm Syrian Rebels

    Damn you Obama and your Imperial dictatorship...Where was Paul durring all these secret votes?


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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    US-ISIL aims to end Iraq & Syria regimes, set up control zone against Iran, redraw Mideast map – Daily Messenger
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    SAUDI CIA BEHIND ISIL RISE: An American author and investigative journalist says CIA director John Brennan who is “a known Saudiphile” has played a key role in the creation and rise of the so-called Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant (ISIL

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    The US waged two unnecessary wars, sacrificed American lives, spent trillions, just to get rid of two individuals without looking at the big picture.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The US waged two unnecessary wars, sacrificed American lives, spent trillions, just to get rid of two individuals without looking at the big picture.
    There you have it. An accurate analysis of the situation condensed into one sentence. Bravo.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

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    Disentangling The Lies

    By Jim Kirwan
    6-30-14



    Who‘s the Client and Who are the real Operatives
    In and around ISIS?
    *
    All that anyone who wanted to know more about ISIS had to do was just Google them and look at who their clients are * that should end any more speculation about who is serving who and to what end!
    https://public.isishq.com/public/clients/default.aspx
    Go to the site navigation bar and play till your hearts’ content.

    https://public.isishq.com/public/SitePages/Home.aspx
    This is their home page that details what they do for their clients.

    “ISIS, an American company modeled after Blackwater, vows to destroy Mecca. Keep in mind with this threat to destroy Mecca that ISIS is an American military intelligence company that manages and trains insurgents abroad, and they have headquarters in Iraq.
    So when you hear that ISIS has vowed to destroy Mecca, and that Muslims have vowed to destroy Mecca, keep in mind that this really is THE JEWISH CONTROLLED AMERICAN MILITARY SUB CONTRACTING WITH AN AMERICAN INTELLIGENCE FRONT COMPANY, SIMILAR TO BLACKWATER, AND IS HAVING THEM MAKE THREATS TO DESTROY MECCA. Real headline? JEWS VOW TO DESTROY MECCA. The proof is right here, via the company I have linked.”
    ISIS Vows To Destroy Mecca. Proof ISIS Is An American Company | Alternative
    This entire chapter in chaos theory 101 is devoted to absolute confusion, on all fronts, to destroy any cohesion between any groups of either religious or nationalistic supporters, of any and all facets, to the point of total annihilation for the entire region. The current bid to create a new Islamic State is just more garbage meant to obscure what’s really going on.
    What will probably be far more interesting will be who will nominate this new criminal state to the UN?
    The back stories about Saudi Arabia and their allies working to support these barbarians, falls into the same category as the fact that ironically none of these fake-associations will ever attack Israel under any condition: Because Israel is behind this entire scenario.
    On the list of clients of ISIS, remember that the US corporations or companies listed are owned by USI. US Inc is also owned by Israel, which makes this whole operation just another shadow government affair, designed by Israel to mislead the world, while Israel contents herself with intensifying her slaughter of unarmed Palestinian’s, in both Gaza and the West Bank. And all of this is
    PAID FOR BY YOU & ME!
    So much for the new Islamic Jewish State or whatever the hell it ends up being called & its' supposedly
    All powerful and totally independent forces.
    The whole damned operation is being produced here!

    Some possible good news!

    Tomorrow is the day that Barry signed for, in his own legislation, to alter the value of the U.S. Dollar on July 1, 2014. I called the bank today, to see if they had heard anything about the pending 30% reduction in the value of the U.S. Dollar, domestically.
    U$ Dollar 2Collapse ’cause U.S. House of Representative Bill
    “Absolutely the first they’d heard about anything like that”
    the manager said: And she hastened to assure me that if that were the case the bank would have to have been told and ‘yes’ if that was happening they would certainly notify all their clients…
    So perhaps that intended devaluation might not be happening tomorrow after all. Of course, if not then that would only be a temporary reprieve, because this $60 trillion dollar hole cannot continue without making that change ~ but hey, at least maybe tomorrow won’t be quite what Barry seemed so determined to create!
    News from the Kiev Front

    “As Itar-Tass reports, citing Gazprom CEO Alexei Miller, "Russia’s gas giant Gazprom does not rule out gas transit via Ukraine may be stopped completely."

    "What happened once is a tendency, nothing happens incidentally. In 2009, gas supplies were stopped completely — so, we know precedents,” Miller told a briefing on Friday.

    Clearly, this is bad news for Ukraine: Gazprom not interested in participation in Ukraine’s gas transportation system (GTS), “train has departed”, CEO said.

    “The train has already departed. It seems it departed yesterday,” Miller said. “It belongs to no one. The GTS has no owner,” he said. “The GTS of Ukraine does not belong to Naftogaz but to the Ukrainian government. Before discussing things with someone regarding modernization and cooperation, it should appear on the balance sheet of this or that economic entity.”
    “Property and legal issues should be resolved first,” Miller said.
    In fact, the civil war torn country may soon lose all leverage it had with both Europe and Russia as a transit hub for natural gas, which also means that it is quite likely that Ukraine is about to be abandoned by its western allies who will no longer have any practical use for it.

    The Gazprom chief added that “a dozen Ukrainian laws need to be changed to be able to do something with the GTS.”

    Confirming that Ukraine's leverage at least with Russia is now effectively zero, Gazprom's CEO also said that “As for the continuation of negotiations with Ukraine, today there is no subject for talks. First, they must repay their debts."”

    Russia Reveals "Plan B": Gazprom Says Gas Transit Via Ukraine May Be Stopped Completely | Zero Hedge
    Meanwhile Obamanation says the nightmare in Iraq is a threat to American National Security here.
    BE AFRAID, BE VERY AFRAID AMERICA!
    Because the ISIS TERRORISTS are coming here soon!

    “US President Barack Obama warns that “battle-hardened” Europeans who are fighting in Syria and Iraq threaten the US.

    “We have seen Europeans sympathetic to their (militants') cause traveling into Syria and may now travel into Iraq, getting battle-hardened ... (the militants) have a European passport. They don't need visas to get into the United States," ABC News “This Week” program.”
    ‘ABC NEW’ is the official mouthpiece for the USG, just a cautionary note, in case anyone was wondering.
    ‘Hey Barry that old-dog is dead. It just can’t hunt anymore!’
    PressTV - Obama: European terrorists threat to US
    The world has your number and besides your time in the fake-spotlight is definitely over: It’s time to begin rehearsals for your coming stint in the dock at the Universal Court of Justice for Crimes Against Humanity… But then I guess they won’t give you a teleprompter for that performance - will they?

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Which may or may not be the case.
    Why we would arm anyone in Syria is a mystery to me. I really don't see any good guys over there, and if the arms we supply are, indeed going to ISIS that is a total failure of foreign policy.

    But, saying that we are arming ISIS does seem to me to be jumping to conclusions at this point.
    Weren't any good guys in the Iran-Iraq War, but we were tied up in that too.

    Generally the goal in the Middle East is to (1) make sure there are no conflicts that could spark a regional war and (2) in the the interests of #1 ensure no single religious or ethnic group gets the military or economic heft to rule the rest. In CIA logic, sometimes to prevent regional conflicts you have to stimulate local conflicts.

    Historically, the reward for fulfilling these goals is a consistent and reliable source of the energy we need to be a large, industrialized nation.

    Frankly, in international relations, "taking a side" is the same thing as "making a side." A faction that becomes reliant on the U.S. and can count on their diplomatic and military support, even if they started out as anti-Western, can quickly become amenable when the benefits of cooperation are made clear.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by RDS View Post
    The US waged two unnecessary wars, sacrificed American lives, spent trillions, just to get rid of two individuals without looking at the big picture.
    Oh, but they earned their buddies some serious cash in the process.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    No. "Rebels in Syria" =/= "ISIS" any more than "people in America" = "Democrats". It is very possible ISIS has stolen, captured, or overrun American aid to other rebel groups just as it has stolen, captured, and overrun American equipment given to the Iraqi Forces. To take this and claim that the US is arming ISIS in such a manner as to suggest that it is a matter of policy, however, is either uninformed or dishonest. I don't know which Paul is, sadly, I would suspect the latter in this case, as the accurate picture is available to him, but does not allow him to grandstand.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No. "Rebels in Syria" =/= "ISIS" any more than "people in America" = "Democrats". It is very possible ISIS has stolen, captured, or overrun American aid to other rebel groups just as it has stolen, captured, and overrun American equipment given to the Iraqi Forces. To take this and claim that the US is arming ISIS in such a manner as to suggest that it is a matter of policy, however, is either uninformed or dishonest. I don't know which Paul is, sadly, I would suspect the latter in this case, as the accurate picture is available to him, but does not allow him to grandstand.
    Mmmm, yes. Because we've never armed rebels, over overstepped Congress to sell arms to buddies who would surely always be our friends so that we could fund rebels elsewhere. And those never came back to bite us in the ass or end up with aid or arms falling into the wrong hands. Nope. Never.
    You know the time is right to take control, we gotta take offense against the status quo

    Quote Originally Posted by A. de Tocqueville
    "I should have loved freedom, I believe, at all times, but in the time in which we live I am ready to worship it."

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