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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria


    Yeah, for one minute we are suppose to believe that the terrorists are going to continue to fight each other. Of course do you think all those American Fighters that went and joined the Syria Rebels/Terrorists......are a bigger concern with this guys?


    Terrorists Team Up in Syria to Build Next Generation of Bombs.....

    An alliance has been building inside war-ravaged Syria, with al Qaeda-linked terrorists there now working alongside hardened operatives from the prolific al Qaeda affiliate in Yemen to develop a new generation of bombs that could be smuggled aboard commercial planes, ABC News has learned.

    This potentially lethal partnership helps to explain why U.S. officials have so publicly expressed concern about thousands of Americans and other foreign fighters who joined terrorists in Syria, and it is at least part of what sparked a warning to airlines earlier this year to look out for explosives-laden toothpaste tubes, cosmetics and shoes.

    The U.S. government had obtained intelligence that associates of an al Qaeda affiliate in Syria – the Al Nusrah Front – and extreme elements of other radical groups were being joined by operatives from al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, the Yemen-based group behind the failed underwear bomb plot on Christmas Day 2009 and the plot a year later to take down cargo planes over the United States with explosives packed into printer cartridges.

    And the groups are jointly working to produce new and “creative” designs for nonmetallic explosives, leading U.S. analysts to believe that the group of radicals, who have worked with Al Nusrah Front, might be looking to target a U.S.- or European-bound plane, sources told ABC News.....snip~

    Terrorists Team Up in Syria to Build Next Generation of Bombs - Yahoo


    http://www.debatepolitics.com/war-te...lth-bombs.html

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Paul is probably right. Knowing some of those we armed and helped for either short term gain or just to spit an known enemy at the time, arming ISIS probably happened and maybe is continuing. We wanted Assad gone, most likely this arming was not to the ISIS directly, but indirectly.
    Yeah Pero.....I even had a thread on when the Rebels were giving the weapons to Al Nusra or ISIL. Its up in the ME thread.

    How indirectly they was shown to be.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    We also have the thread on who all the Rebels that were involved and others caught up into the conflict. From the beginning.

    In the thread we have here.....In Honor of the Syrian Rebels.



    Islamist Rebels Create Dilemma on Syria Policy

    In Syria’s largest city, Aleppo, rebels aligned with Al Qaeda control the power plant, run the bakeries and head a court that applies Islamic law. Elsewhere, they have seized government oil fields, put employees back to work and now profit from the crude they produce.

    Across Syria, rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists. Even the Supreme Military Council, the umbrella rebel organization whose formation the West had hoped would sideline radical groups, is stocked with commanders who want to infuse Islamic law into a future Syrian government.

    Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.....snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...-w-90-a-2.html

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    We also have the thread on who all the Rebels that were involved and others caught up into the conflict. From the beginning.

    In the thread we have here.....In Honor of the Syrian Rebels.



    Islamist Rebels Create Dilemma on Syria Policy

    In Syria’s largest city, Aleppo, rebels aligned with Al Qaeda control the power plant, run the bakeries and head a court that applies Islamic law. Elsewhere, they have seized government oil fields, put employees back to work and now profit from the crude they produce.

    Across Syria, rebel-held areas are dotted with Islamic courts staffed by lawyers and clerics, and by fighting brigades led by extremists. Even the Supreme Military Council, the umbrella rebel organization whose formation the West had hoped would sideline radical groups, is stocked with commanders who want to infuse Islamic law into a future Syrian government.

    Nowhere in rebel-controlled Syria is there a secular fighting force to speak of.....snip~

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...-w-90-a-2.html
    Is Sharia Law not a widespread religious teaching? In other words, why do some groups have it, and others don't?

    Greetings, MMC.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Is Sharia Law not a widespread religious teaching? In other words, why do some groups have it, and others don't?

    Greetings, MMC.
    Sharia law originated and is exported by Saudi Arabia. Bashar Assad for example is fighting against this.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Is Sharia Law not a widespread religious teaching? In other words, why do some groups have it, and others don't?

    Greetings, MMC.
    Greetings and fair tidings Polgara!

    There are a number of different Muslim sects (Sunni and Shiite conflicting in Iraq with the Kurds thrown in), each having slightly different beliefs and value systems.

    Of these, seems that Wahhabi movement - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is the most conservative, with strong support for Sharia law. OBL was a Wahhabi from Saudi Arabia, for example.
    Disinformation campaign? The Russian collusion meme pushed by the 'news' media, behaving as a political propaganda organ, hell bent to destroy a legitimately elected president to implement his agenda per the votes of the same electorate. Reference The Big Lie Reference Goebbels

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Is Sharia Law not a widespread religious teaching? In other words, why do some groups have it, and others don't?

    Greetings, MMC.

    One thing is for certain Lady P......Terrorists are spreading, and under BO. Plus now we have to worry about all these Americans that went to fight for these so called Rebels/Terrorists.

    Jihadis.....and their version of Islamic law.


    Also there is the Sunni Doctrine of Islam and the Shia Doctrine.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah Pero.....I even had a thread on when the Rebels were giving the weapons to Al Nusra or ISIL. Its up in the ME thread.

    How indirectly they was shown to be.
    Perhaps not that indirectly that one should be surprise if our arms ended up with ISIS, AN or other AQ rebels fighting Assad. We give the arms to Turkey for them to distribute in Syria. We really have no control whom they give them to.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Perhaps not that indirectly that one should be surprise if our arms ended up with ISIS, AN or other AQ rebels fighting Assad. We give the arms to Turkey for them to distribute in Syria. We really have no control whom they give them to.
    Yeah, I can't remember if I had it up in the Concerning Syria Thread or if it was a Separate on its own. But I remember the story. Rebel Commanders said they would give them to the al Nusra or likes since they were the tougher fighters and leading the battles.

    These might interest you and can give you some insight as to why and what has been going on.


    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...t-regions.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/middle...democracy.html

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by 24107 View Post
    Sharia law originated and is exported by Saudi Arabia. Bashar Assad for example is fighting against this.
    So it may be that the rebels want Sharia in Syria? So why does Obama want to help fund and train the rebels then - would he want his wife and daughters subject to that? I can almost guarantee Michelle wouldn't agree - not the way she likes to wear designer fashions, which is her right! Assad apparently knows the women of his country wouldn't either. What is Obama thinking?

    Greetings, 24107.

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