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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    No, I have ignored the attempt to insert a strawman argument into Pauls' (false) statement.
    As others have pointed out, the initial article that this thread was based on falsely reported Paul's remark. the link cited in the Op has been corrected, and I posted his statement of substance that you have completely ignored.

    and I know why, he is leading the GOP right now, and he has views of foreign policy that you don't agree with. That doesn't make him an idiot, or stupid, as he is clearly far more intelligent then you are.

    No, it is a debate. A conflict of knowledge in which you are unarmed.
    more empty rhetoric by someone obviously carrying a great deal of insecurities....much like a child.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    My source argues rank and file
    No, it doesn't. Look, here: since I read your source, I'll cite it for you.

    ...According to the article, it was not known whether those doing the training were direct members of the US government or if they worked for a private firm, but the main focus of the training was on anti-tank weaponry. The report continues to point out that 200 men were trained at the facility and that over 1200 will be added in a plan to prepare to free Syria from the rule of President Bashar Al-Assad. Besides the American trainers, it is reported that French and British advisors were present as well to aid in the training.

    According to Jordanian intelligence sources, it is reported that the program is designed to create 10,000 fighters who will exclusively be a part of the ISIS group. ISIS is now responsible for the unrest occurring in Northern Iraq, and it would be quite ironic if the United States was actually responsible for the training that is now being used to destabilize the Iraqi nation.

    The plan appears to have been designed to train 10,000 “moderates” of Islam in the hope that they would follow American interests in the region. Arizona Senator John McCain even paid a visit to the group during training to show his support for the group, and to demonstrate the support of the US government for their cause. McCain was photographed with General Salim Idris, who was later expelled from the group because he was seen as too moderate for them. The new leader of the group is General Ibrahim al-Douri, who was the Vice-President of the Revolutionary Council under former Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein. He was supposed to be the successor to Hussein, and looks like this goal may still be reached....

    Neither of those two men were, at any time, a member of ISIL. Much less it's leader. Your source is taking any Syrian opposition leader and lumping them in under "ISIL", an approach that is only marginally more idiotic than Paul's.

    And you've pushed the two of us even farther apart with your declaration that we've had a policy of inaction in the ME! That's totally a strange way to describe action that you disagree with
    On the contrary, the action I disagree with is inaction. I said at the very beginning that we should shape this conflict, and we failed to do so. Now look where we are.

    I'm exhausted with our discussion, and can't seem to narrow the ground between us, sorry cp, I'm out of here. Now don't talk bad about me behind my back
    Man, the only things I would say about you, I"ve already said to your face I think you are woefully ignorant about the situation in Syria, and I think that you choose to remain so because it allows you to defend a politician.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    As others have pointed out, the initial article that this thread was based on falsely reported Paul's remark. the link cited in the Op has been corrected, and I posted his statement of substance that you have completely ignored.
    I haven't seen that, but it would be good to see noted. Do you have the link demonstrating that saved?

    and I know why, he is leading the GOP right now, and he has views of foreign policy that you don't agree with. That doesn't make him an idiot, or stupid, as he is clearly far more intelligent then you are.
    Paul is not leading the GOP right now, though it is true that the lure of ignoring the world is probably as strong as it has been since our last great era of just awesome application of that foreign policy in the 1970s.

    more empty rhetoric by someone obviously carrying a great deal of insecurities....much like a child.
    No. Just a recognition that you made very, very, very basic errors.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I haven't seen that, but it would be good to see noted. Do you have the link demonstrating that saved?
    It's in this thread. the original article that started this thread has been updated to correct the error.

    Paul is not leading the GOP right now
    Polls say otherwise.

    though it is true that the lure of ignoring the world is probably as strong as it has been since our last great era of just awesome application of that foreign policy in the 1970s.
    more empty rhetoric

    No. Just a recognition that you made very, very, very basic errors.
    right. I laughed at your literal claim to the thread title, which you ignorantly call an error. you got nothing.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    It's in this thread. the original article that started this thread has been updated to correct the error.



    Polls say otherwise.



    more empty rhetoric



    right. I laughed at your literal claim to the thread title, which you ignorantly call an error. you got nothing.
    Denying that decades of foreign policy failure has left the ME in ruins is what the far right has been doing forever. They love US interference in other countries, and as you can tell by this dudes round abouts, the US is the only country that can keep the world spinning, except as soon as we get the hell out, things will improve. Rand Paul is right.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    More evidence has been entered into the files of public record that terrorist organizations such as al-Qaeda, ISIS, and the al-Nusra Front are completely controlled by the CIA and other Western intelligence agencies.

    In fact, according to Nabil Na’eem, founding member of the Islamic Democratic Jihad Party and a former commander of al-Qaeda, all current al-Qaeda affiliates are nothing more than offshoots of an overarching CIA terror operation. He also claimed that these groups will eventually be turned against Saudi Arabia, despite the fact that Saudi Arabia has acted as a bankroller and facilitator for them for years on end.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    There is a lot of nonsense out there on the internet, isn't there?
    "Donald Trump is a phony, a fraud... [he's] playing the American public for suckers." Mitt Romney

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