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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    your speculation was duly noted.

    the fact is, we did those things.
    Yes. Proudly.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Dear lord, I'm never surprised the extent that apologists for US policy go to justify wrong doing
    nope. I'm happy to point out where US foreign policy has failed. I just choose to do so in an informed manner, where I actually know what I am talking about.

    Decades of failed policy in the ME as well as support for militant Islamists. A region in total flames and you think I'm the desperate one. Yeah cp, just another patronising conservative hawk.
    Dude you are trying to pull anything you can out of thin air to make Paul not an idiot, a fool, or a liar. You are the one who chose to make yourself sound desperate, not me.

    As for patronising? maybe - I give off that tone sometimes. But both Paul and you clearly know very little about ISIL, and you refused to accept that, but continued to insist on a claim unconnected to reality.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    you are paid to study this sort of thing? That makes you a sock puppet in my mind.
    That's nice. Do you consider all members of the military to be sock puppets? Or just the ones who are have jobs in which they are required to think?

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's nice. Do you consider all members of the military to be sock puppets? Or just the ones who are have jobs in which they are required to think?
    I would hope all jobs require to think. which ones don't exactly?

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    The relationships between many of the militant groups from Libya into Syria, Iraq, etc., are not completely known or understood.
    It's worth noting as well that while the word "completely" sets up an impossible strawman, we actually have a pretty good idea about the major groups in those three countries. In Libya, for example, AAS (they are currently, of course, busy with General Haftar) is perhaps the most active, and they fall under AQIM, who fall under AQSL, meaning that they back the ANF, not ISIL, who fights with ANF as well as the FSA, and generally proves as willing to attack fellow rebels as they are the Syrian regime (infighting among the rebels is one of the regimes' greatest assets in this fight).

    ISIL, on the other hand, has been led by Abubakr al-Baghdadi since the death of Abu Omar al-Baghdadi, who picked up leadership of ISIL after the death of Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. At each point they were lead by Islamists who were affiliated with the AQ brand - although Zarqawi was home grown and Abubakr al-Baghdadi later rejected Zawahiri's Emirship. At no point has this organization ever been led by Baathists or those who seek representative government, such as the two men your source tried to claim were ISIL leadership, as they consider both to be apostate and anathema.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I would hope all jobs require to think. which ones don't exactly?
    PFC's.

    But I can't help but notice you didn't answer the question.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    PFC's.

    But I can't help but notice you didn't answer the question.
    I found it either rhetorical or idiotic...not sure which.

    I find your presence in these threads tiring and unconvincing.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    I found it either rhetorical or idiotic...not sure which.

    I find your presence in these threads tiring and unconvincing.
    says the guy who started this bit by calling someone a sock-puppet.

    Let me know when you are willing to answer my question, or defend the abusive and foolish stance with which you began.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    says the guy who started this bit by calling someone a sock-puppet.

    Let me know when you are willing to answer my question, or defend the abusive and foolish stance with which you began.
    this thread isn't about you, it's about how we aided allies of terrorists (and have done so for decades)

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    this thread isn't about you, it's about how we aided allies of terrorists (and have done so for decades)
    Actually no it's not. It's about Rand Paul's foolish claim that we have been arming ISIL in Syria. Look, it's in the title and everything .

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