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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

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    hahaha. you probably refuse to accept the truth of the Gulf of Tonkin too.

    enough with you
    The Gulf of Tonkin is irrelevant to this discussion. Btw, we really did land on the moon.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    "ISIS emboldened after US armed its allies in Syria"

    That is the claim of substance you have given zero evidence of being false. All the crap about if that ally in Syria is ISIS, or some other group is just obfuscation by apologists that don't want to focus on how we arm terrorists and terrorist sympathizers and have done so for decades.
    During the Carter administration the US backed the militant Islamic group Mujahideen and every president since has supported militant Islamic groups, sometimes removing them from the terrorist list to cover for the support. Us policy in the ME can be nothing other than destabilisation, just have a look across the region.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    During the Carter administration the US backed the militant Islamic group Mujahideen and every president since has supported militant Islamic groups, sometimes removing them from the terrorist list to cover for the support. Us policy in the ME can be nothing other than destabilisation, just have a look across the region.
    The Carter and Reagan administrations did indeed back the Mujahedin against the USSR in Afghanistan. Not all the Mujahedin were actually Islamic militants; some were simply nationalists or tribal traditionalists. Regardless, our support ended when the Soviets left Afghanistan, and it was not until many years later that the Taliban took over the country.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    During the Carter administration the US backed the militant Islamic group Mujahideen and every president since has supported militant Islamic groups, sometimes removing them from the terrorist list to cover for the support. Us policy in the ME can be nothing other than destabilisation, just have a look across the region.
    You can go back way further to Operation Ajax where we recruited local Nazis and Muslim terrorists. Pretty much every man, women, and child in that region know what we were up to, but the apologists still exist.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    You can go back way further to Operation Ajax where we recruited local Nazis and Muslim terrorists. Pretty much every man, women, and child in that region know what we were up to, but the apologists still exist.
    More silliness.

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    Jun 10, 2013 - Ray Takeyh debunks the myth that the CIA was responsible for Mossadeq's demise and the 1953 Iranian coup.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    You can go back way further to Operation Ajax where we recruited local Nazis and Muslim terrorists. Pretty much every man, women, and child in that region know what we were up to, but the apologists still exist.
    Yep. When faced with the choice to support moderates, US policy was to support the militant Islamic groups. We have supported Sunnis against Shia for decades.

    Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency program to arm and finance the Afghan mujahideen prior to and during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, 1979 to 1989. The program leaned heavily towards supporting militant Islamic groups that were favored by neighboring Pakistan, rather than other, less ideological Afghan resistance groups.


    http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Cyclone
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    More silliness.

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    Jun 10, 2013 - Ray Takeyh debunks the myth that the CIA was responsible for Mossadeq's demise and the 1953 Iranian coup.
    hahaha.

    you just went from claiming we never armed terrorists to, agreeing that we did, but it was inconsequential to the overthrow.

    PWNED

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yep. When faced with the choice to support moderates, US policy was to support the militant Islamic groups. We have supported Sunnis against Shia for decades.

    Operation Cyclone was the code name for the United States Central Intelligence Agency program to arm and finance the Afghan mujahideen prior to and during the Soviet war in Afghanistan, 1979 to 1989. The program leaned heavily towards supporting militant Islamic groups that were favored by neighboring Pakistan, rather than other, less ideological Afghan resistance groups.


    Operation Cyclone - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by ARealConservative View Post
    hahaha.

    you just went from claiming we never armed terrorists to, agreeing that we did, but it was inconsequential to the overthrow.

    PWNED
    There is nothing in my post or link that suggests we armed terrorists.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack Hays View Post
    There is nothing in my post or link that suggests we armed terrorists.
    your link confirms all we know about the CIA's actions. it's an apologist piece that claims our activity didn't work.

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