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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Didn't the FBI or the CIA lose crates of military carbines to Mexican drug cartels in a botched undercover deal? Bottom line on the Middle East: The U.S. does not have a clue on what to do and when and where. Recall WWII when we did not know how we were going to handle the people of Japan when we occupied so we just nuked the twice and all was cool.
    ....wow. I admit, I am somewhat stunned by that intellectual tour de force. The DEA lost track of the guns they were selling to cartels, so obviously we nuked Japan because we didn't know how to occupy them.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    The Democrats are apparently in their own isolated government operating inside the USA with their aiding of Islamic militants going back to Jimmy Carter, then Bill Clinton. This is one of the main reason I dont vote for Democrats. They always support mujahideen and suchlike. I still feel hostile to Clinton for aiding them in the Bosnian war.

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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by michijo View Post
    The Democrats are apparently in their own isolated government operating inside the USA with their aiding of Islamic militants going back to Jimmy Carter, then Bill Clinton. This is one of the main reason I dont vote for Democrats. They always support mujahideen and suchlike. I still feel hostile to Clinton for aiding them in the Bosnian war.
    The US supported the Mujahadeen during the Soviet war in Afganistan (1978 - 1989)

    It's a bit of a revision of history to claim that (1) Clinton aided them in the Bosnian War, and that (2) only Democrats were in power during that time in the USA.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    The US supported the Mujahadeen during the Soviet war in Afganistan (1978 - 1989)

    It's a bit of a revision of history to claim that (1) Clinton aided them in the Bosnian War, and that (2) only Democrats were in power during that time in the USA.
    Clinton did some suspicious stuff during Bosnian war. He allowed Mujahideen into Bosnia to fight the Serbs. Bin Laden was funding the Muslims in the Bosnian war as well, If you look into it very honestly, you can see how it is easily another game like in Afghanistan where doing a Cold War type trick they use the Muslims to fight communist Serbs.

    2 Mujahideen from Bosnian war actually were part of the 9/11 operation. Just research who the suicide bombers were and look at their history. 2 of them fought in the Bosnian war.

    Interesting how terrorist attacks always occur in the North East. Ask yourself why they bombed the Boston Marathon. What is the significance? Yankees, Democrats. The Democrats trained them and they always attack the north. Some of them flew out of Portland Maine.

    The interesting question is why they turned on the Democrats. I believe I know.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    ISIS “Made in USA”. Iraq “Geopolitical Arsonists” Seek to Burn Region | Global Research
    ISIS: Made in USA

    The Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS) is a creation of the United States and its Persian Gulf allies, namely Saudi Arabia, Qatar, and recently added to the list, Kuwait. The Daily Beast in an article titled, “America’s Allies Are Funding ISIS,” states:

    The Islamic State of Iraq and Syria (ISIS), now threatening Baghdad, was funded for years by wealthy donors in Kuwait, Qatar, and Saudi Arabia, three U.S. allies that have dual agendas in the war on terror.

    Despite the candor of the opening sentence, the article would unravel into a myriad of lies laid to obfuscate America’s role in the creation of ISIS. The article would claim:

    The extremist group that is threatening the existence of the Iraqi state was built and grown for years with the help of elite donors from American supposed allies in the Persian Gulf region. There, the threat of Iran, Assad, and the Sunni-Shiite sectarian war trumps the U.S. goal of stability and moderation in the region.

    However, the US goal in the region was never “stability” and surely not “moderation.” As early as 2007, sources within the Pentagon and across the US intelligence community revealed a conspiracy to drown the Middle East in sectarian war, and to do so by arming and funding extremist groups including the Muslim Brotherhood and Al Qaeda itself.*Published in 2007 – a full 4 years before the 2011 “Arab Spring” would begin – Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Seymour Hersh’s New Yorker article titled, “”The Redirection: Is the Administration’s new policy benefiting our enemies in the war on terrorism?” stated specifically (emphasis added):

    To undermine Iran, which is predominantly Shiite, the Bush Administration has decided, in effect, to reconfigure its priorities in the Middle East. In Lebanon, the Administration has coöperated with Saudi Arabia’s government, which is Sunni, in clandestine operations that are intended to weaken Hezbollah, the Shiite organization that is backed by Iran.*The U.S. has also taken part in clandestine operations aimed at Iran and its ally Syria. A by-product of these activities has been the bolstering of Sunni extremist groups that espouse a militant vision of Islam and are hostile to America and sympathetic to Al Qaeda.
    http://www.thedailybeast.com/article...ding-isis.html
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not really. For example, the Kurds are both militant and Islamic, and they deserve our support - they are probably the only stable portion of that particular region.

    Paul's selling point is that he is not a politician like the rest. If he's going to lie to the American people about a major foreign policy issue in order to score cheap thrills from his base, then he has discredited the basis by which he claims the right to political influence.
    I don't consider him to have lied. In time, as these things usually do, we'll likely see more evidence to his claims.
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    America's Allies Are Funding ISIS - The Daily Beast

    Destabilisation people, that's the meme!


    “ISIS has been a Saudi project,” one Qatari official said

    http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...bandar/373181/
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    Re: Paul: US has been arming ISIS in Syria

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I don't consider him to have lied. In time, as these things usually do, we'll likely see more evidence to his claims.
    If he said something that he knew wasn't true, then he lied.

    If he made it up, then he lied.

    If he honestly thought we were, then he was amazingly uninformed, and shouldn't have been commenting on something he knew so little about.

    If he thinks instead that there is some kind of conspiracy to secretly fund AQI/ISIL/ISI/IS; despite the fact that they are a group literally founded on the intent to kill as many Americans as possible and foment a civil war in Iraq in order to drive us from the region, then he belongs with the 9/11 truthers and birthers.

    ......and those are kind of sort of your options. None of them are good.





    You are letting your personal feelings towards the man cloud judgement here. What he said was and is not only false, but obviously false.

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