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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    So, not nutty at all then?

    Seriously, arguments ad-hominem?
    His old man is an old fool. Fact.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    His old man is an old fool. Fact.
    Wow, you're doubling down with your baseless fallacies...
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
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    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Wow, you're doubling down with your baseless fallacies...
    He called Cheney a war profiteer. Not really baseless.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    He called Cheney a war profiteer. Not really baseless.
    Fact: Dick Cheney's Halliburton profited from the war.

    Yes, your dismissive personal attacks are baseless.
    Haymarket's "support" of the 2nd Amendment, a right he believes we never had.
    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    no. You cannot lose rights you do not have in the first place. There is no such thing as the right to have any weapon of your choice regardless of any other consideration. It simply does not exist.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    So, not nutty at all then?

    Seriously, arguments ad-hominem?
    is this a serious post in a thread about Paul making an ad hominem?
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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    When I got out of college I worked for Bechtel and at the time this kind of talk was common if I mentioned where I worked to someone. For some reason they thought there was some sort of conspiracy afoot, but they could never tell me who else the government should have hired for the job. It was just some stupid nonsense about no bid contracts and how terrible they are without even an ounce of understanding of what no bid contracts are, how they work or why they are used. They also didn't understand the relationship between Bechtel and the government and instead insisted that it was all special favors going on. They seemingly had no idea how much work went into building trust and exactly how long Bechtel has proven itself worthy to the government or the capabilities of a company like Bechtel. They thought for some reason any construction company can do what Bechtel does and didn't seem to understand how absurd that notion really was.

    It was not also uncommon for the discussion to shift to Cheney and Haliburton and as you would expect all of the above problems popped up again.
    This post of yours was quite prescient as well as illustrative way back when you posted on page three. Right down to the no bid contract part of the conspiracy. Not surprisingly the off loading of goods from the booby hatch continues, still using the same talking points you encountered when you got out of college, today.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    How many died in 200l?
    And with enough people sharing your attitude, no doubt it will be allowed to happen again. And who you going to point the blame at then?
    Bush and Cheney are gone and they allowed it to happen the first time, do you remember? CIA told Bush about threat to Mainland by Al Qeda. Germany, France, Israel, and Russia told USA about threats. USA, aka, Bush and Cheney ignored threats and 9-11 followed. Ergo, Bush and Cheney allowed it to happen. Pretty simple, really. Maybe too simple to fit a Mainstream Media tool and success story.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Fact: Dick Cheney's Halliburton profited from the war.

    Yes, your dismissive personal attacks are baseless.
    Fact, Cheney sold all interest in Halliburton prior to the war.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by JasperL View Post
    Halliburton was just the face of the problem, and you have to admit the optics couldn't be worse. CEO retires to become VP, $30+ million severance package, as VP is staunch promoter of war with Iraq, and then when we go to war, his former company gets $billions in no bid contracts. If that's not at least the 'appearance' of impropriety/corruption/crony capitalism, then I am not sure what impropriety, etc. would look like.

    Are you not concerned that 'war' now means that hundreds, perhaps thousands, of companies will enjoy far higher profits, bonuses, etc. if we send our kids off to get maimed and killed in wars? There was no downside to any of those companies for going into Iraq, and many fortunes were made because we did. The incentives are just horrific. The 'military industrial complex' and the problems identified by Eisenhower decades ago are simply real. You call the people who worried about that 'easily entertained.' I'd call anyone who wasn't concerned about Halliburton and hundreds of other companies ignorant, foolish, shortsighted, and/or just plain stupid.

    * Sigh *...

    Nonsense.


    From Boeing's Fighter and Support aircraft to Lockheed Martins weapon systems...and Aircraft, to the Aegis defense systems and the hundreds of others, Private Defense Contractors have been apart of our National defense for decades.

    The ONLY reason people like you targeted Halliburton was because there was a Political angle.

    Its why you CONTINUE to target Halliburton.

    Hell yea, the Libs are easilly amused, because a quick Google search would reveall the Hundreds of Defense Contractors that we've used over the years.

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    Re: So Rand Paul called Cheney an evil war profiteer

    Quote Originally Posted by Lachean View Post
    Fact: Dick Cheney's Halliburton profited from the war.

    Yes, your dismissive personal attacks are baseless.
    Guess what, I am too. I work for a company that makes and sells the MRAP and other vehicles of war.

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