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    Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    Ah....now we can see why Khattala was finally captured and now taken off the Libyan range. Its clear he may be an influence to people in Benghazi. But then it is also clear that the former CIA General wants him out of the way. What say ye?



    A strange silence has met the U.S. capture of a Libyan militant accused in the 2012 attack that killed the American ambassador and three others. In his hometown of Benghazi in eastern Libya, there have been few threats of revenge, only speculation among supporters and opponents that Ahmed Abu Khattala was betrayed by an insider. Abu Khattala had said for months he had no fear of the Americans snatching him, living at his home and saying he worked as a construction contractor. Before U.S. commandos snatched him from Benghazi a week ago, he had been battling alongside the militant group Ansar al-Shariah against the troops of Khalifa Hifter, a renegade Libyan general who has waged an offensive aimed at crushing Islamic militants around Libya, Abu Khattala's brother Abu Bakr told The Associated Press.

    Abu Khattala was a prominent figure in the eastern city of Benghazi's thriving circles of extremists, popular among young radicals for being among the most hard-core and uncompromising of those calling for Libya to be ruled by Islamic Shariah law. But he was always something of a lone figure. Even after he joined Ansar al-Shariah — the group accused by the United States of carrying out the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi— he didn't take a leadership position or a post in its decision-making bodies, noted Fadlallah Haroun, a former rebel commander in Benghazi who met Abu Khattala in prison in the 1990s.

    "He was always an outsider," Haroun, who opposes the Islamists and whose brother is a top intelligence official, told the AP. "He was a very simple man, who was honest in his talk and independent.....snip~

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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    This has more to do with whats been going on in Libya recently.....even here it says he lived openly. Outsider, yet supporter. Oh and this piece forgot that the FBI released the Photos. Here it mentions the other two I had shown people, before this came up.



    Mohammed Hegazi, a spokesman for Hifter's forces, described Abu Khattala as a "spiritual leader" of the extremist religious groups and militias in Benghazi. He accused him of orchestrating the looting of banks in the central city of Sirte, without offering evidence. But Abu Khattala was not the group's top leader — that was its founder, Mohammed al-Zawahi. While he was close to its leadership, he didn't join any of its decision-making bodies, Haroun said.

    Abu Khattala's brother Abu Bakr said that in past months, he would disappear from his home in Benghazi for several days at a time because of the fighting with Hifter's forces. Their father last spoke with Abu Khattala on the morning of June 16, he said — and after that his phone went dead.....snip~

    Abu Khattala is among a number of suspects named in a sealed indictment at the U.S. District Court in Washington for alleged involvement in the attack. The identities of the others in the indictment have not been revealed. Earlier this year, the Obama administration accused two branches of Ansar al-Shariah in the attack — the Benghazi branch and another based in the northern city of Darna — and listed them as terrorist groups. The Darna branch is led by Sufian bin Qumu, a former detainee at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who was identified by American officials at the time as a probable member of al-Qaida. He was handed over to Libya in 2007 and later freed.....snip~
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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Ah....now we can see why Khattala was finally captured and now taken off the Libyan range. Its clear he may be an influence to people in Benghazi. But then it is also clear that the former CIA General wants him out of the way. What say ye?



    A strange silence has met the U.S. capture of a Libyan militant accused in the 2012 attack that killed the American ambassador and three others. In his hometown of Benghazi in eastern Libya, there have been few threats of revenge, only speculation among supporters and opponents that Ahmed Abu Khattala was betrayed by an insider. Abu Khattala had said for months he had no fear of the Americans snatching him, living at his home and saying he worked as a construction contractor. Before U.S. commandos snatched him from Benghazi a week ago, he had been battling alongside the militant group Ansar al-Shariah against the troops of Khalifa Hifter, a renegade Libyan general who has waged an offensive aimed at crushing Islamic militants around Libya, Abu Khattala's brother Abu Bakr told The Associated Press.

    Abu Khattala was a prominent figure in the eastern city of Benghazi's thriving circles of extremists, popular among young radicals for being among the most hard-core and uncompromising of those calling for Libya to be ruled by Islamic Shariah law. But he was always something of a lone figure. Even after he joined Ansar al-Shariah — the group accused by the United States of carrying out the Sept. 11, 2012, attack on the U.S. diplomatic mission in Benghazi— he didn't take a leadership position or a post in its decision-making bodies, noted Fadlallah Haroun, a former rebel commander in Benghazi who met Abu Khattala in prison in the 1990s.

    "He was always an outsider," Haroun, who opposes the Islamists and whose brother is a top intelligence official, told the AP. "He was a very simple man, who was honest in his talk and independent.....snip~

    http://news.yahoo.com/libya-suspect-...195208636.html
    I don't know, Libya is not a strong point with me. Now why would you say a certain CIA General wanted him out of the way? But here is something that might interest you?

    64% Favor Death Penalty for Benghazi Killings Suspect - Rasmussen Reports™

    I do think it is a big mistake bring this guy back to the states and treat him as a regular law breaker. He should have been sent to Gitmo, found out what he knew and then stood before a military tribunal. I just can't understand treating these guys like they just robbed a liqueur store downtown Miami or something.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    So is the arrest purely political on the administrations part, was he just a opportunistic target or is he really the "ring leader"?
    “I think if Thomas Jefferson were looking down, the author of the Bill of Rights, on what’s being proposed here, he’d agree with it. He would agree that the First Amendment cannot be absolute.” - Chuck Schumer (D). Yet, Madison and Mason wrote the Bill of Rights, according to Sheila Jackson Lee, 400 years ago. Yup, it's a fact.


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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I don't know, Libya is not a strong point with me. Now why would you say a certain CIA General wanted him out of the way? But here is something that might interest you?

    64% Favor Death Penalty for Benghazi Killings Suspect - Rasmussen Reports™

    I do think it is a big mistake bring this guy back to the states and treat him as a regular law breaker. He should have been sent to Gitmo, found out what he knew and then stood before a military tribunal. I just can't understand treating these guys like they just robbed a liqueur store downtown Miami or something.



    Because even the Generals Spokesperson points out how they view him as a spiritual leader. Which then others think he contributed to the cause.

    Another point is most of Benghazi didn't consider him to really be part of Ansar al Sharia. That he sided with all Islamists

    Only a few witness say they saw him with weapons. Which they also said he was directing the attack and that was proven false. Which is why we are looking for that other Ansar al Sharia Leader.

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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    It takes time to program someone to claim they were watching YouTube!

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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Because even the Generals Spokesperson points out how they view him as a spiritual leader. Which then others think he contributed to the cause.

    Another point is most of Benghazi didn't consider him to really be part of Ansar al Sharia. That he sided with all Islamists

    Only a few witness say they saw him with weapons. Which they also said he was directing the attack and that was proven false. Which is why we are looking for that other Ansar al Sharia Leader.
    Okay, I had something more sinister in mind. If not sinister, a whole lot more complicated. Spiritual leader, fine. I heard during the fight this guy was directing traffic to and from the battle. Sounds more like an MP than a leader of men. He also walked around like he wasn't afraid of anyone on either side or all sides.
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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    Quote Originally Posted by CalGun View Post
    It takes time to program someone to claim they were watching YouTube!
    Mornin' Cal. Yeah well according to the guys brother. His phone went dead on the 16th of June. So Right around when we snagged them. Moreover.....the Consulate has te footage from the beginning of the attack. This guy was no where around the scene at that time.

    So I am sure some guy who isn't connected to others by sheer association can be given some talking points.....huh?

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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    So is the arrest purely political on the administrations part, was he just a opportunistic target or is he really the "ring leader"?
    Mornin' Ockham. Well I think we can see BO and his team look to change tangents again. So not many are talking about Stevens being sent out to meet that Turk Envoy.

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    Re: Libya suspect a Shadowy Figure among Militias.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    This has more to do with whats been going on in Libya recently.....even here it says he lived openly. Outsider, yet supporter. Oh and this piece forgot that the FBI released the Photos. Here it mentions the other two I had shown people, before this came up.



    Mohammed Hegazi, a spokesman for Hifter's forces, described Abu Khattala as a "spiritual leader" of the extremist religious groups and militias in Benghazi. He accused him of orchestrating the looting of banks in the central city of Sirte, without offering evidence. But Abu Khattala was not the group's top leader — that was its founder, Mohammed al-Zawahi. While he was close to its leadership, he didn't join any of its decision-making bodies, Haroun said.

    Abu Khattala's brother Abu Bakr said that in past months, he would disappear from his home in Benghazi for several days at a time because of the fighting with Hifter's forces. Their father last spoke with Abu Khattala on the morning of June 16, he said — and after that his phone went dead.....snip~

    Abu Khattala is among a number of suspects named in a sealed indictment at the U.S. District Court in Washington for alleged involvement in the attack. The identities of the others in the indictment have not been revealed. Earlier this year, the Obama administration accused two branches of Ansar al-Shariah in the attack — the Benghazi branch and another based in the northern city of Darna — and listed them as terrorist groups. The Darna branch is led by Sufian bin Qumu, a former detainee at the U.S. military prison in Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, who was identified by American officials at the time as a probable member of al-Qaida. He was handed over to Libya in 2007 and later freed.....snip~
    bin Qumu? our old friend, the "AQ core" guy does get around, funny that Khatalla always gets the blame, but bin Qumu gets the Obama support, to overthrow Qadaffi.

    Libyan "humanitarian war" ( going after Qaddafi and supporting the NTC AQ types)h was a very bad idea. I noticed Rand Paul at least mentioned today on Meet the Press

    I'm becoming a big fan of Paul

    don’t think I would put it that way. I disagree with the President - I disagree with him on the Libyan incursion and with arming the Syrian rebels
    Meet the Press Transcript - June 22, 2014 - NBC News

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