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    Re: Pope excommunicates Italian mobsters

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    This will be meaningful when the Pope gives the billions received from the people he is turning his back on. How much of the Vatican wealth comes from crooks? Lets see the Vatican disgorge this wealth as a sign of good faith.
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    Re: Pope excommunicates Italian mobsters

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Oops, guess they forgot to pay their indulgences.
    A mere 500 years too late.
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    Re: Pope excommunicates Italian mobsters

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Catholic Charities is the largest charitable organization in the world.
    Would it be if not for the gifts from their worldwide Mafia patrons???

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    Re: Pope excommunicates Italian mobsters

    Quote Originally Posted by washunut View Post
    Would it be if not for the gifts from their worldwide Mafia patrons???
    Yes, it would be.
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    Re: Pope excommunicates Italian mobsters

    All major religions are, IMO, a COMPLETE and TOTAL waste of time...but I really like this Pope.

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    Re: Pope excommunicates Italian mobsters

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    A mere 500 years too late.
    No, the practice persists to this day.

    VARIOUS GRANTS

    The bulk of the Enchiridion is a listing of indulgenced prayers and acts. First come three "general grants."

    The first says "a partial indulgence is granted to the faithful who, in the performance of their duties and in bearing the trials of life, raise their mind with humble confidence to God, adding -- even if only mentally-- some pious invocation." It is noted that this grant "is intended to serve as an incentive to the faithful to practice the commandment of Christ that `they must always pray and not lose heart'" (Luke 18:1)

    The second general grant is this: "A partial indulgence is granted to the faithful who, in a spirit of faith and mercy, give of themselves or of their goods to serve their brothers in need." This grant "is intended to serve as an incentive to the faithful to perform more frequent acts of charity and mercy," as Christ commanded (John 13:15, Acts 10:38).

    The third general grant provides that "a partial indulgence is granted to the faithful who, in a spirit of penance, voluntarily deprive them-selves of what is licit and pleasing to them." This provision is meant "to move the faithful to bridle their passions and thus to bring to their bodies into subjection and to conform themselves to Christ in his poverty and suffering" (Matt 8:20, Matt 16:24).
    Introduction to Indulgences - Prayers - Catholic Online

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    Re: Pope excommunicates Italian mobsters

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, the practice persists to this day.

    Introduction to Indulgences - Prayers - Catholic Online
    That's not the kind of indulgences you are talking about. Catholicism has always been about acts as an path to salvation. Modern indulgences are not about paying off the Church, they're about prayer and denial of self, as your quote shows.

    But I do see how it could be that a lot of Mafia members may have seen their dedication to the church as an indulgence. The Pope put an end to that fantasy.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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