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UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

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On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?
 
I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).
 
I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).

Looks like they want all of it banned in their country. You can see how the Democrats here will be playing some Bruce Springsteen and Dancing in the Dark.
 
Haven't heard anything about it (although I live in UK) but don't care. Nobody cares, we're heading for atheism en masse.
 
On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?

It could be discussed in a class discussing philosophy. However, to do so and give a well rounded education, all creation stories should be discussed to include religions other than just Abrahamic religion creationism. But, it should not be taught as an alternative to scientific theories.
 
It could be discussed in a class discussing philosophy. However, to do so and give a well rounded education, all creation stories should be discussed to include religions other than just Abrahamic religion creationism. But, it should not be taught as an alternative to scientific theories.

Heya Beaudreaux. :2wave: Semi Private Schools and Academies too.
 
Heya Beaudreaux. :2wave: Semi Private Schools and Academies too.

Semi-private, to me, means they get some government funding. Fully private schools can teach about the first great running of the Kentucky Derby that included dinosaurs for all I care.
 
Semi-private, to me, means they get some government funding. Fully private schools can teach about the first great running of the Kentucky Derby that included dinosaurs for all I care.

Are they going to start up some Common Core too? Wonder what the UK system thinks of MO's Lunch Program? Think they will try some of that out?
 
Are they going to start up some Common Core too? Wonder what the UK system thinks of MO's Lunch Program? Think they will try some of that out?

I hate Common Core. You know that. MO's lunch program is a joke, as I described at length in another thread, because local districts buy the food and the food sucks, even the so called healthy food.

It's never much sense to me to compare the UK to the US. They have always been far more socialist and progressive than we are... thank God.
 
I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).

It's pseudoscientific nonsense. It has no place in a science class.

Some extra background information in this report. I can't find any major media comment with a quick scan, but then it's not that groundbreaking, despite the BHA bigging up their triumph.

http://www.politics.co.uk/news/2014...-as-government-bans-creationism-from-free-sch

England has a National Curriculum which covers the essential requirements of a state education.
 
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Are they going to start up some Common Core too? Wonder what the UK system thinks of MO's Lunch Program? Think they will try some of that out?

Went there several years before Michelle O became First Lady.
 
On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?
I beat you to it.

http://www.debatepolitics.com/education/197141-teaching-creationism-sceince-now-banned-uk.html
 
I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).

Brought up where? That is kinda the key thing to me. In a current events class dealing with a story just like this one? Sure. A class on religion? Absolutely. But where else would it be relevant and on topic?

More importantly, what is teaching? And to be honest in a quick look I am not finding the actual document, but I found this. Note the source is not a news source but they do appear to quote from the actual law(sorry, time pressed or I would find the actual law): https://humanism.org.uk/2012/01/10/news-961/. Take the source for what it is worth, I admit that it might be inaccurate.

The British Humanist Association (BHA) has welcomed a new revision of the model funding agreement for Free Schools by the Government in order to preclude ‘the teaching, as an evidence-based view or theory, of any view or theory that is contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence and explanations.’

AS I read that, all this does is disallow teaching creationism or ID as science or as being based upon evidence. It does not say you cannot teach about them though.

Hah, found it: http://media.education.gov.uk/asset...chool model funding agreement - june 2013.pdf

24A)
The Academy Trust shall not make provision in
the context of any
subject for the teaching, as an evidence
-
based view or theory, of any view
or theory that is contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence
and explanations
.
24B)
The Academy Trust shall make provision for the teaching of
evolution as
a comprehensive, coherent and extensively evidenced theory
 
It could be discussed in a class discussing philosophy. However, to do so and give a well rounded education, all creation stories should be discussed to include religions other than just Abrahamic religion creationism. But, it should not be taught as an alternative to scientific theories.

As I read the law, it can be discussed in science class, just not as being evidence based science. In other words, based on the language of the document, you could in a science calss say "some people beleive this, but it is based on faith and not scientific evidence".
 
On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?

If they are banning it from their science curriculum and from biology, history, etc. then I support them 100% or more. Creationism is a religious subject which should only be talked about in religious classes and not science classes.
 
If they are banning it from their science curriculum and from biology, history, etc. then I support them 100% or more. Creationism is a religious subject which should only be talked about in religious classes and not science classes.


Well.....they might want to consider adding the Ancient Astronaut Theory to the science curriculum then. Just sayin!
 
I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).

No, intelligent design can also be teached or discussed in religious studies because there is no scientific evidence to prove a divine intervention in biology/evolution. We are teaching scientific fact, not scientific beliefs in biology. That you want to believe god steers the evolution is your choice but as there is zero evidence to support such a thing, it must not be taught in science classes.

We are not "fitting' things into evolution to explain it if there is no evidence to support it.
 
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Well.....they might want to consider adding the Ancient Astronaut Theory to the science curriculum then. Just sayin!

it is a pseudo scientific opinion and thus also not useful in a science class. If people want to discuss this they can do it is social studies or the US equivalent of that.
 
I'm sure it will still be covered in RE classes.
 
it is a pseudo scientific opinion and thus also not useful in a science class. If people want to discuss this they can do it is social studies or the US equivalent of that.

Yeah that's what some think.....but then if we are looking at History. Then.....History will be re-written again. Like it has been several times.
 
Yeah that's what some think.....but then if we are looking at History. Then.....History will be re-written again. Like it has been several times.

Sure, but that is history and it was re-written based on accepted and proven facts. It is not biology and it is not based on pseudo-science.

If there ever will be proof positive that there have been aliens before we can comment about it in history, before that it is nothing more than speculation and conjecture.
 
Sure, but that is history and it was re-written based on accepted and proven facts. It is not biology and it is not based on pseudo-science.

If there ever will be proof positive that there have been aliens before we can comment about it in history, before that it is nothing more than speculation and conjecture.


Well, that's why Historians do check with the Military with Associations to Governments belonging to Countries. More than likely why its been re-written several times already.
 
This stuff probably shouldn't be taught in hard science classes. It would be foolish, though, to not make it available. Denying human spirituality is denying reality.
 
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