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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Are they going to start up some Common Core too? Wonder what the UK system thinks of MO's Lunch Program? Think they will try some of that out?
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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Went there several years before Michelle O became First Lady.
    Did it work? As MO's is not doing so well over here.

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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

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    On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

    The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

    Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

    UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


    Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?
    I beat you to it.

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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

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    Sorry DH.....I didn't see it. Maybe we can get a Mod to merge this on the end.

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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).
    Brought up where? That is kinda the key thing to me. In a current events class dealing with a story just like this one? Sure. A class on religion? Absolutely. But where else would it be relevant and on topic?

    More importantly, what is teaching? And to be honest in a quick look I am not finding the actual document, but I found this. Note the source is not a news source but they do appear to quote from the actual law(sorry, time pressed or I would find the actual law): https://humanism.org.uk/2012/01/10/news-961/. Take the source for what it is worth, I admit that it might be inaccurate.

    The British Humanist Association (BHA) has welcomed a new revision of the model funding agreement for Free Schools by the Government in order to preclude ‘the teaching, as an evidence-based view or theory, of any view or theory that is contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence and explanations.’
    AS I read that, all this does is disallow teaching creationism or ID as science or as being based upon evidence. It does not say you cannot teach about them though.

    Hah, found it: http://media.education.gov.uk/assets...une%202013.pdf

    24A)
    The Academy Trust shall not make provision in
    the context of any
    subject for the teaching, as an evidence
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    based view or theory, of any view
    or theory that is contrary to established scientific and/or historical evidence
    and explanations
    .
    24B)
    The Academy Trust shall make provision for the teaching of
    evolution as
    a comprehensive, coherent and extensively evidenced theory
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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Beaudreaux View Post
    It could be discussed in a class discussing philosophy. However, to do so and give a well rounded education, all creation stories should be discussed to include religions other than just Abrahamic religion creationism. But, it should not be taught as an alternative to scientific theories.
    As I read the law, it can be discussed in science class, just not as being evidence based science. In other words, based on the language of the document, you could in a science calss say "some people beleive this, but it is based on faith and not scientific evidence".
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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    On Thursday, the United Kingdom expanded its ban on the teaching of creationism from all state schools, to all state schools as well as semi-private Free Schools and Academies.

    The decision effectively means that no school in the United Kingdom can teach creationism or any other “anti-scientific” dogma without losing the entirety of its funding, as they would be violating “the requirement on every academy and free school to provide a broad and balanced curriculum. According to a press release from the British Humanist Association (BHA), the new rules “explicitly require that pupils are taught about the theory of evolution, and prevent academy trusts from teaching ‘creationism’ as scientific fact.”

    Not even Intelligent Design — the favored faux-scientific theory of American creationists who wish to import biblical beliefs into public school classrooms — can be taught, as “creationism” is defined by the new rule as “any doctrine or theory which holds that natural biological processes cannot account for the history, diversity, and complexity of life on earth and therefore rejects the scientific theory of evolution.”.....snip~

    UK bans teaching of creationism in any school that receives public funding


    Well.....now we know what the Progressives and libs will picks up as a mantra for over here in the US, huh? Looks like the Brits will lead that way. What say ye?
    If they are banning it from their science curriculum and from biology, history, etc. then I support them 100% or more. Creationism is a religious subject which should only be talked about in religious classes and not science classes.
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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter King View Post
    If they are banning it from their science curriculum and from biology, history, etc. then I support them 100% or more. Creationism is a religious subject which should only be talked about in religious classes and not science classes.

    Well.....they might want to consider adding the Ancient Astronaut Theory to the science curriculum then. Just sayin!

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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    I understand not teaching it in science class, but it should be brought up, there is room for intelligent design to fit into the theory of evolution and many believe that (I do).
    No, intelligent design can also be teached or discussed in religious studies because there is no scientific evidence to prove a divine intervention in biology/evolution. We are teaching scientific fact, not scientific beliefs in biology. That you want to believe god steers the evolution is your choice but as there is zero evidence to support such a thing, it must not be taught in science classes.

    We are not "fitting' things into evolution to explain it if there is no evidence to support it.
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    Re: UK bans Teaching of Creationism in Any school that receives Public Funding.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Well.....they might want to consider adding the Ancient Astronaut Theory to the science curriculum then. Just sayin!
    it is a pseudo scientific opinion and thus also not useful in a science class. If people want to discuss this they can do it is social studies or the US equivalent of that.
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