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    In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    A proposal to block intelligence agencies from conducting warrantless and “backdoor” searches of U.S. communications passed in the House late Thursday night.Adopted 293-123, with one member voting present, the amendment to the 2015 Defense appropriations bill would prohibit the search of government databases for information on U.S. citizens without a warrant. It would further cut off funding for the CIA and National Security Agency to build security vulnerabilities, or "backdoors," into domestic tech products or services for surveillance purposes. Rep. Dan Lipinski (D-Ill.) was the only member to vote present.
    Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.), the chief sponsor of the bipartisan amendment, said it would limit the controversial NSA spying."The American people are sick of being spied on," Massie said.
    Rep. Zoe Lofgren (D-Calif.), another sponsor of the amendment, said it would uphold the Constitution without infringing upon national security.
    "It allows us to get the bad guys, but also says, 'Use probable cause and the Fourth Amendment," Lofgren said.


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    A step in the right direction! Will it pass the Senate? Hopefully! But does this go far enough?


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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    A step in the right direction! Will it pass the Senate? Hopefully! But does this go far enough?
    Maybe.
    Right now, it's only a bill sitting on Capitol Hill.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Good. I'm glad that Lofgren specifically cited probable cause and the 4th amendment. We need to adhere to those without exception.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    This is a good sign.

    The cynic in me is most skeptical that it will ever pass the Senate, and even if it did Obama would veto it, just as Senator Obama voted in favor of FISA II with its grant of immunity to AT & Treason and other telecoms.

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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

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    A step in the right direction! Will it pass the Senate? Hopefully! But does this go far enough?
    I suspect the issue just has to get before the Supreme Court before most of what the NSA is doing gets struck down. In a landmark decision here in Canada this past week, our Supreme Court unanimously struck down federal powers to demand internet servers provide police with names, addresses and other identification data when the police provide an IP address. The ruling means that the police now must seek a warrant for even this bare minimum of information.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    And, again, no one is demanding that the president--whom the NSA works for--put a stop to the NSA spying.

    I wonder why that is.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, again, no one is demanding that the president--whom the NSA works for--put a stop to the NSA spying.

    I wonder why that is.
    It is that way because the entire government, all three branches, is rotten to the core. Ike's worst nightmares have come true with a vengeance.

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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    It is that way because the entire government, all three branches, is rotten to the core. Ike's worst nightmares have come true with a vengeance.
    That explains a lot of things, doesn't it?

    We have a republic if we can keep it. Who was it that said that? Ben Franklin maybe?
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, again, no one is demanding that the president--whom the NSA works for--put a stop to the NSA spying.

    I wonder why that is.
    Because it would be retarded?
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    I don't believe they'll ever stop, no matter what lawmakers say.
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