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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    of course you did--
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    I did? Link, please?
    and now you pretend that Obama is the 1st to do what Cheney made an art of -
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    more false equivalency
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    Its a flip of a coin. He's either stupid, or crooked.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    got a link for this ?
    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Because he condones the surveillance, or the NSA knows that Obama is the most impotent president in American history.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    more false equivalency
    Just admit your accusation is untrue and let's move on.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Just admit your accusation is untrue and let's move on.
    Let's not move on, since you're the one letting loose with accusations unsupported in this thread .
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    got a link for this ?
    VA, Ibamacare, IRS targetting, giving the show away in Iraq and Afghanistan, the Berdahl trade, The Ukraine, the redline in Syria, Marine falsely imprisoned in Mexico. Shall I keep going?
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    All of our presidents engage in selective enforcement. Besides, I don't think the NSA cares about the president either.
    They would if Congress and the President shut down their funding. But who's kidding whom - neither is truly interested in shutting down the NSA.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    They would if Congress and the President shut down their funding. But who's kidding whom - neither is truly interested in shutting down the NSA.
    I agree that neither is interested in shutting it down. Neither the dems nor the repubs. But even if they did, I think the NSA would still do it on the sly
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
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    A step in the right direction! Will it pass the Senate? Hopefully! But does this go far enough?
    It won't make it through the senate unchanged. if it does i will be surprised.
    the only other question is will obama veto it. I read somewhere that he was against this from the start but i would have to double check.

    I think it is a start the key is to keep the teeth in place without the teeth which is adherence to the 4th amendment and getting warrents we have no clue.
    the other problem is are they going to have to get warrents from a real court or this secret court that has 0 accountability that will just hand write them what they want.

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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Its a flip of a coin. He's either stupid, or crooked.
    Or, he is familiar enough with history to understand that the last POTUS who got uppity with CIA and NSA was taken out with a bullet....

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