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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Because it would be retarded?
    It would be retarded for the president, who directly controls the NSA, to order then to halt their surveillance operations?
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, again, no one is demanding that the president--whom the NSA works for--put a stop to the NSA spying.

    I wonder why that is.
    Because presidents like that power and they wont reign it in.

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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    A step in the right direction! Will it pass the Senate? Hopefully! But does this go far enough?
    It would be a good start, but I doubt the senate will pass it as is, if they do they will take any limits on the NSA out.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Amandi View Post
    Because presidents like that power and they wont reign it in.
    Of course not. It's up to the President's boss to see to it that the Constitution is followed.

    Who's the president's boss? Got a mirror?
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by Dittohead not! View Post
    Of course not. It's up to the President's boss to see to it that the Constitution is followed.

    Who's the president's boss? Got a mirror?
    I don't think any president. That is why I support Congress making along. Of course the president will probably veto it.

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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    It would be retarded for the president, who directly controls the NSA, to order then to halt their surveillance operations?
    Yes, it would be.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by OldWorldOrder View Post
    Yes, it would be.
    How so?
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    How so?
    Because purposely blinding your nation's intelligence community is kinda stupid? Especially if your job entails providing the defense of the nation? Why wouldn't he just go slam his balls in a dresser drawer while he's at it?

    What's not to get: diminishing NSA's ability would be stupid. Since he's not stupid, that's not something that he would do. We've seen that, as you've pointed out, because he hasn't done it.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I suspect the issue just has to get before the Supreme Court before most of what the NSA is doing gets struck down. In a landmark decision here in Canada this past week, our Supreme Court unanimously struck down federal powers to demand internet servers provide police with names, addresses and other identification data when the police provide an IP address. The ruling means that the police now must seek a warrant for even this bare minimum of information.
    I suspect that no matter what laws are passed or what the Supreme Court says, the NSA will keep doing what the NSA does.
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    Re: In surprise vote, House backs NSA limits

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    And, again, no one is demanding that the president--whom the NSA works for--put a stop to the NSA spying.

    I wonder why that is.
    Because that would be like demanding that cats stop playing with the mice before they kill them
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    the vast majority of folks that need healthcare are on Medicare.. both rich and poor..

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