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    Re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm smart enough to put something back together - especially with directions. However, that is not the point.

    Uranium is easy - it's **** - so is enriching it if you're a ****ing Jihad terrorist that doesn't give a ****, a monkey could do that. Other weaponry takes skill but it has already been manufactured and putting together is nothing for the right guy.

    ****, I'm sure a gear-head could build a nice ride out of a junk yard but can that gear-head actually mold the parts for that car? NO but the analogy here is that the parts have already been molded - they've been produced and they just need to be reassembled NOT created - understand?

    It's no different than building an IKEA product - more complicated - yes, but no different.
    Maybe you could do it after all.

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    Re: ISIS in Iraq seizes control of Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons facility

    Quote Originally Posted by BmanMcfly View Post
    You mean the alqueada people posted VIDEO OF THEMSELVES LOADING AND LAUNCHING THE CHEMICAL WEAPONS so they could blame Assad.
    The point was 'someone' knows what they are doing. Hell, I can't tell them apart.
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    Re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    I don't get it.

    1) People say the chemicals in those bunkers are degraded and useless.

    2) They also say that it would be too dangerous for ISIS soldiers to even go in those bunkers.

    3) How can the chemicals be both "degraded & useless" AND "too dangerous to handle" at the same time?

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    Re: ISIS in Iraq seizes control of Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons facility

    I don't get it.

    1) People say the chemicals in those bunkers are degraded and useless.

    2) They also say that it would be too dangerous for ISIS soldiers to even go in those bunkers.

    3) How can the chemicals be both "degraded & useless" AND "too dangerous to handle" at the same time?

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    Re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Wait until libertarians/Tea Party take control because people WILL be held accountable - not censures but PRISON....
    I'm terrified!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Fn36l_z3WY

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    Re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Which in context of what he was saying, it was as it relates to the claims that there were no WMD's or that they lied that there were WMD's there.

    The OP, and anyone after it, did not make any argument as to whether or not this itself justified the invastion.
    There was knowledge of these "weapons" years ago.
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    Re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    Not sure what point you are trying to make here. Saddam was deposed in 2003, his 'facilities' were searched VERY extensively looking for all those WMD Rummy claimed he could walk in and place his hand on once we invaded... and a very paltry few found back then.... the 'facilities' were razed- ummm so who would be building a new facility, and stockpile?

    I'd not be going out on a limb to say whatever is still in those bunkers are less than useless, and more of a danger to whomever would try to remove them from the bunkers than anyone they attempted to use them on.
    You can try answering the question.
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    Re: ISIS in Iraq seizes control of Saddam Hussein’s chemical weapons facility

    Quote Originally Posted by Dayton3 View Post
    I don't get it.
    1) People say the chemicals in those bunkers are degraded and useless.
    2) They also say that it would be too dangerous for ISIS soldiers to even go in those bunkers.
    3) How can the chemicals be both "degraded & useless" AND "too dangerous to handle" at the same time?
    Idk what exactly other people meant. I can't speak for anyone else. Also, I didn't make the claims you are discussing.
    However, I think I can see a way through your conundrum.

    The ISG report which WCH linked to up thread gives the impression that significant areas were too unstable to "exploit." Probably due to the combinations of bombing and looting. Iirc, the place was looted not long after the invasion began. I know that at least one suspected wmd-related site a building was looted down to it's concrete foundation. Very efficient looking imho.

    It may also possible for chemicals to be very dangerous locally, but not "weaponizable." By weaponizable, I mean the ability to be weaponized--made ready to be deliver a deadly payload to the enemy. Idk a whole lot about chemical weapons. But the folks over at the Federation Of American Scientists aren't too shabby.
    I may be wrong.

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    Re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Ockham View Post
    You can try answering the question.
    You can try not using a weak CON game-

    Who would have rebuilt the facility and produced viable chemical weapons?

    The CIA and the ISG both completed their work AFTER Saddam was hung.

    I believe the 'captured facility' story is just CON crap trying to fling more poo. The razed facility isn't of value to the Insurgents, just to the right wing nuts...

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    Re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    You can try not using a weak CON game-

    Who would have rebuilt the facility and produced viable chemical weapons?

    The CIA and the ISG both completed their work AFTER Saddam was hung.

    I believe the 'captured facility' story is just CON crap trying to fling more poo. The razed facility isn't of value to the Insurgents, just to the right wing nuts...
    What's weak is you refuse to answer. Game set match... me. Have a nice day!
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