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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Phys251 View Post
    The only thing we owe Dick Cheney is life in prison without parole.
    And that's why you people lose so much credibility in this debate. You are unable to disentangle your feelings towards the Bush administration from your analysis of the actual data available at the time.

    Hell, I think that Obama has made a lot of radically unwise decisions that I disagreed with strongly at the time, but at least I retain the ability to sit down and understand how and why he came to them.

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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    You're just taking bull**** from leftist sites like CBS who are now backtracking on their bull**** and posting it...

    The US WAS NEVER LOOKING FOR CAKE - they wanted chemical or biological weapons, I don't think in a million years they figured they would find cake and that much.

    Furthermore cake is USELESS generally unless you want to make a bomb.

    Either way now your whole "Bush lied" **** goes out the window as it did in 2007/08 (I believe) when they found the cake....

    Iraq doesn't need that much cake for anything BUT to create a nuclear weapon -- Yellow cake is a byproduct that is basically useless. Africa has so much yellow cake they don't know what to do with it but destroy it.

    You are just swallowing the BS even more, I can find plenty of different sites that will acknowledge the fact that they knew about the yellow cake, had it under guard
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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    And that's why you people lose so much credibility in this debate. You are unable to disentangle your feelings towards the Bush administration from your analysis of the actual data available at the time.

    Hell, I think that Obama has made a lot of radically unwise decisions that I disagreed with strongly at the time, but at least I retain the ability to sit down and understand how and why he came to them.
    I find it fascinating that every single time you try to engage me, cpwill, you immediately resort to personal insults. I have never seen a counterexample from you. Not one. Furthermore, your inability to address the points with reason and not emotion is a point in my favor. So I'll say it again: Cheney deserves life without parole.
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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Yeah? Then how come we found hundreds of the damn things? Did he leave them in his other pants? And why would he think he still had some? Why would Iraqi's chemical Arty Bn's receive the "Go" order to launch, if they didn't think they could?
    Apparently you dont understand that these weapons are DISMANTLED and UNUSABLE.
    "However, a survey of the site conducted by the Iraq Study Group determined the facility has since been dismantled, and that existing weapons stockpiles was sealed and unusable, the Journal said."
    ""Two wars, sanctions and Unscom oversight reduced Iraqi's premier production facility to a stockpile of old damaged and contaminated chemical munitions (sealed in bunkers), a wasteland full of destroyed chemical munitions, razed structures, and unusable war-ravaged facilities," the Iraq Study Group's 2004 report said, according to the Journal.

    "According to U.S. officials, the seizure of the Muthanna complex, though attention grabbing, is meaningless as far as concerns for usage of chemical weapons goes."
    Iraqi militants ISIS seize Saddam's top chemical weapons facility - Middle East Israel News | Haaretz


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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Tammerlain View Post
    You are just swallowing the BS even more, I can find plenty of different sites that will acknowledge the fact that they knew about the yellow cake, had it under guard
    I never said it wasn't guarded - I said it existed in Iraq and the only reason for that much is to create a nuclear bomb...

    Of course it was under guard and highly inspected to make sure it wasn't already enriched - that is common sense.

    My point is that IT SHOULDN'T HAVE BEEN THERE IN THE FIRST PLACE and the only reason for it to be there was to create a bomb - Get it now?

    Weather or not it was guarded is irrelevant.

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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Apparently you dont understand that these weapons are DISMANTLED and UNUSABLE.
    "However, a survey of the site conducted by the Iraq Study Group determined the facility has since been dismantled, and that existing weapons stockpiles was sealed and unusable, the Journal said."
    ""Two wars, sanctions and Unscom oversight reduced Iraqi's premier production facility to a stockpile of old damaged and contaminated chemical munitions (sealed in bunkers), a wasteland full of destroyed chemical munitions, razed structures, and unusable war-ravaged facilities," the Iraq Study Group's 2004 report said, according to the Journal.

    "According to U.S. officials, the seizure of the Muthanna complex, though attention grabbing, is meaningless as far as concerns for usage of chemical weapons goes."
    Iraqi militants ISIS seize Saddam's top chemical weapons facility - Middle East Israel News | Haaretz
    Yeah right - smart people can put them back together - I could.

    The real cost is assembling these weapons - not reassembling the weapons.

    Do you not understand that?

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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right - smart people can put them back together - I could.

    The real cost is assembling these weapons - not reassembling the weapons.

    Do you not understand that?
    Wow. You must be so smart! You are currently outsmarting a lot of people! You should be able to get a really great job!


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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    Yeah right - smart people can put them back together - I could.
    You could do no such thing.

    You clearly show with your posts a distinct lack of skills needed to disseminate information effectively in any way, shape or form on even the most basic of subjects and concepts that the idea of you being able to reassemble complicated chemical weapons systems is not even off the deep end, it's off the deep end, the wharf and even completely losing sight of the shoreline.

    When you've demostrated the ability to use basic comprehension, we'll discuss your chemical weapons prowess.

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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Wow. You must be so smart! You are currently outsmarting a lot of people! You should be able to get a really great job!
    I'm smart enough to put something back together - especially with directions. However, that is not the point.

    Uranium is easy - it's **** - so is enriching it if you're a ****ing Jihad terrorist that doesn't give a ****, a monkey could do that. Other weaponry takes skill but it has already been manufactured and putting together is nothing for the right guy.

    ****, I'm sure a gear-head could build a nice ride out of a junk yard but can that gear-head actually mold the parts for that car? NO but the analogy here is that the parts have already been molded - they've been produced and they just need to be reassembled NOT created - understand?

    It's no different than building an IKEA product - more complicated - yes, but no different.

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    re: ISIL seizes Saddam's chemical weapons plant

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr.Nick View Post
    I'm smart enough to put something back together - especially with directions. However, that is not the point.

    Uranium is easy - it's **** - so is enriching it if you're a ****ing Jihad terrorist that doesn't give a ****, a monkey could do that. Other weaponry takes skill but it has already been manufactured and putting together is nothing for the right guy.

    ****, I'm sure a gear-head could build a nice ride out of a junk yard but can that gear-head actually mold the parts for that car? NO but the analogy here is that the parts have already been molded - they've been produced and they just need to be reassembled NOT created - understand?

    It's no different than building an IKEA product - more complicated - yes, but no different.
    So instead of backing up anything you are just going to compare it to IKEA!
    now i have seen it all. WMDs=IKEA furniture!


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