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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    The only problem with this is the same one California and Oregon have. Raise the gas taxes to pay for road maintenance - people react by driving less and buying less gas - before too long the revenue generated drops and they need to raise the gas tax again. Rinse, repeat.

    Not to mention it disproportionately affects the poor.
    If people drove less, then less worked needed to be done, in theory, as the wear and tear would reduce in proportion to the reduced miles driven.

    Reduced miles is the *only* inherent goal of a tax on fuel. Taxes are disincentives.
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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

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    I love your passion,I'm 100% with you!!

    Too bad the idiots in DC will never understand.
    Helix is generally a polite, rational, and peaceful creature. until he pulls up to the pump and it costs forty some bucks to fill up a Mini Cooper. in 2000, i was filling up a Jeep Wrangler for like fifteen bucks.

    now, i understand that a gas tax is a user fee, and i'm ok with that to a point. however, i see some obvious ways in which we could reallocate the money that don't involve highly regressive taxes.

    and then there's just the obvious complete mistake of the timing. during the planning and writing of the bill, no one said, "hey, this is an issue that makes people irrationally furious. perhaps we should do something else, or at least wait until after the election to spring it on them."

    really? nobody suggested that?

    really?

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    Helix is generally a polite, rational, and peaceful creature. until he pulls up to the pump and it costs forty some bucks to fill up a Mini Cooper. in 2000, i was filling up a Jeep Wrangler for like fifteen bucks.

    now, i understand that a gas tax is a user fee, and i'm ok with that to a point. however, i see some obvious ways in which we could reallocate the money that don't involve highly regressive taxes.

    and then there's just the obvious complete mistake of the timing. during the planning and writing of the bill, no one said, "hey, this is an issue that makes people irrationally furious. perhaps we should do something else, or at least wait until after the election to spring it on them."

    really? nobody suggested that?

    really?


    Don't feel bad Helix.....my boss went out and bought a Prius. He still spends the same amount of money driving around due to work. If not more this year.....having more work and farther to travel. Win some lose some.

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    i am not against the tax increase on gas because its needed but what we need to do is to have all tax dollars go into the general fund to pay for the needs of the country in stead of having a tax to fund this or that(SS and medicare are other examples).

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    WASHINGTON (AP) Two senators unveiled a bipartisan plan Wednesday to raise federal gasoline and diesel taxes for the first time in more than two decades, pitching the proposal as a solution to Congress' struggle to pay for highway and transit programs.

    The plan offered by Sens. Chris Murphy, D-Conn., and Bob Corker, R-Tenn., would raise the 18.4-cents-a-gallon federal gas tax and 24.4-cents-a- gallon diesel tax by 12 cents each over the next two years, and then index the taxes to keep pace with inflation.

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Don't feel bad Helix.....my boss went out and bought a Prius. He still spends the same amount of money driving around due to work. If not more this year.....having more work and farther to travel. Win some lose some.
    thank goodness i only have to commute sixty miles a day (there and back) for the next year. the other town where they actually hire scientists is fifty miles one way. i would have to use size 25 bolded capslock type instead of size 7 for that one.

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    This is what Americans pay now.

    On average, as of April 2014, state and local taxes add 31.5 cents to gasoline and 31.0 cents to diesel, for a total US average fuel tax of 49.9 cents per gallon for gas and 55.4 cents per gallon for diesel

    The United States federal excise tax on gasoline is 18.4 cents per gallon and 24.4 cents per gallon for diesel fuel.
    Fuel taxes in the United States - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    So 50 cents a gallon in taxes isn't already enough? Bring back the mighty V8!
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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    thank goodness i only have to commute sixty miles a day (there and back) for the next year. the other town where they actually hire scientists is fifty miles one way. i would have to use size 25 bolded capslock type instead of size 7 for that one.


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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    If only the gas tax actually WENT towards road maintenance.




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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    When they come out next year, and if my shoulder will fit, I'm buying an Elio.
    Most of my driving is to and from work five miles away. I don't need to do that in a 11mpg Jeep.
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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Our transport infrastructure is in horrible condition. How do you propose to pay not only for badly needed repairs and future upkeep? Having those that use the infrastructure pay for it - and roughly in porportion to their use of it - seems fair to me.
    as gas goes up people slow down on their driving.
    they don't go out as much they stay in it creates a drag on the economy.

    the average gas price is about 6 cents higher. that 6 cents has cost the American economy 150m dollars. so theoretically a 12 cent increase would cost the American economy 300m dollars possibly.

    that is 300m dollars that people and businesses don't have to spend.

    it's always fair when it is someone else's money. I think we should look at the transportation budget and see what they are spending their money on. how many people are employeed and whether or not we can cut back on spending within the department itself and transfer those funds to projects.

    this is also what happens when people drive more efficient cars. they buy less gas which means less tax revenue.

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