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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    for the purpose of tax, road infrastructure.
    Also urban mass transit and goofy trains to nowhere nonsense. These mass transit systems are designed to operate at a loss, requiring permanent operational subsidies, after receiving massive subsidies to get them initially established.

    How about a less than 10 mile rail system that costs (at least) $1.4 billion?

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    disproportionately low income people are not the ones driving all the miles on the roads. why? because they can't afford to.

    this is the same argument against the sales tax we pay.
    The truckers already pay more for diesel, the least refined product, and that is because of taxes. Alternatives. Eliminate Homeland Security. Eliminate the Energy Dept. because we don't have a realistic energy policy. Eliminate NSA. Downsize CIA and all other acronym intelligence agencies. No more wars. Get out of Ukraine, Libya, Syria, Egypt, Iraq, Afghanistan, etc. We are not there to "Poice" anybody, but for USA Corporate to profit handsomely. I vote Green, perhaps a wasted vote, but a real alternative. The Dem and Repub status quos have sucked for 50 years.

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    The government at all levels takes in enough money. We just to elect smarter people to spend it.
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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    It's just an excuse to grab at more money, infrastructure is just an excuse. I highly highly doubt they would spend it on improvements and maintenance that needs to be made.
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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    if it is phased in over several years(3-4 cents per year), people will not notice.
    But don't you see the problem? You add a few pennies here, a few pennies there, a few pennies later on, yadda yadda, and pretty soon all those pennies add up to dollars and more dollars until the total tax burden is hindering prosperity and opportunity for millions. Meanwhile, the government just creates more and more bureaucracy and swallows up whole more and more of the taxes it collects just to feed itself. And it never seems to make a dent in the problem. We have a 17+ triillion dollar debt that is growing by billions every single day.

    Don't you think it is time to step back and evaluate whether we have a revenue problem or a spending problem? Whether we have a revenue problem or a far more sinister permanent political class problem?
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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by digsbe View Post
    It's just an excuse to grab at more money, infrastructure is just an excuse. I highly highly doubt they would spend it on improvements and maintenance that needs to be made.
    Just more lunch money for the gov, Digs...

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    you have to maintain the roads/bridges we travel on.

    what we need to do is to STOP building more of them and take care of the existing infrastructure.

    I totally agree, we have a proposal for anew highway in the works while our other highways/roads badly need repair.
    The wear and tear on the vehicles the terrible roads are causing is becoming a problem also. So I don't mind paying a little more IF
    they would actually fix the roads and not hijack the money for something else.

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The nasty Democrats who control the once great Live Free or Die state just raised our gas taxes. I've had enough.

    Chris Murphy needs to drive around his state once in a while and see how high the CT gas prices already are. Dumbass.

    Find the money from somewhere else.
    Heya TB Chicago Democrats.....said sorry. We don't like having to do it. We just can't roll back that Cook County temp tax. Nor can we just take away any other City Temp tax.

    No we don't want to raise more property taxes. Well we shouldn't have promised that Toll Booth increase......but we figured to pick some of that back up due to people speeding in front of those cameras that we bought with your taxpayer money. We just forgot we weren't suppose to tell them where the cameras were located.

    Naturally since we say so.....the Rest of the state will have to follow suit. Also some of you other states Right next to us. As we can't have our citizens all leaving here to go and spend money in your state due to it being cheaper there than here.

    So you will have to raise taxes too.

    Naturally our gas gone up a little with whats going on in Iraq. They figure it to go up some anyways. More than Likely all the Democrats here will jump in on this.

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by mtm1963 View Post
    what government needs to do is to properly spend the money where is it needed vs spending it where its politically motivated only to get votes.
    Ya think.

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    Re: Senators propose 12-cent gas tax increase

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    The nasty Democrats who control the once great Live Free or Die state just raised our gas taxes. I've had enough.

    Chris Murphy needs to drive around his state once in a while and see how high the CT gas prices already are. Dumbass.

    Find the money from somewhere else.
    I noticed Republican Senator Corker from Tennessee was the other partner in this tax increase--how 'bout you.
    And that the OP is from Tennessee and seems to support this gas tax.
    Maybe Corker will be TEA-partied in 2016 .
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