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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    the XO of the USS Pueblo came to my HS. He was a member of the John Birch Society. I had lunch with him after his discussion of the captivity of that ship by Communists. to claim that anti-communism was not the main driving force of JBS is just plain moronic.
    My brother bought a lot of things from him shortly before died, my brother is a huge militaria collector. In fact, he just bought a MiG.
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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Moot View Post
    I could be wrong but I think Portlandians are probably more concerned about the chemicals and purity of the water than they are about communist mind control conspiracies. Besides, a lot of liberals are environmentalists, vegatarians, vegans, buy organically grown food, oppose GMOs, etc, ...so why wouldn't they be concerned about chemicals in the water supply?
    Which is exactly the logic of why I am troubled by this thread. Just because someone wonders about something, such as the inconsistency in Obama's own writings about his birthplace or the value of fluoride in water doesn't mean that they deserve some smear that implies ridicule them for all their beliefs.

    Yes, Portlanders are very proud of their water supply and want to keep it pure and "natural", despite any science that indicates the value of fluoride. Despite the science strongly in favor of some GMO products, such as golden rice, or vaccinations, there are some who hold onto their beliefs. Extrapolating from that to some overall condemnation and ridicule is illogical.

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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Jango View Post
    That's the first question that comes to mind?
    Yes, and it's not surprising. Those who are hyperpartisan ALWAYs try to take a situation and find a way to make it exceedingly political in an "us vs them" fashion and use it to attack and smear the entire side. It's what they do.

    The guilt by association notion is ridiculous here, but it's become a staple of politics. Whether or not he's a birther is largely irrelevant to his actions. Whether or not he's "far right wing" is pretty irrelevant as well. The only relevancy is attempting to do a political "7 steps to Kevin Bacon" as a means of attempting to smear "The right" and those within it as a whole based on the individual actions of one man.

    The reality is crazy conspiracy theorists reside on all sides of the political spectrum and, by and large, rarely actually represent an accurate depiction of the vast majority of those within that political wing.

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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    whomever has this question pop into their little heads the first thing after any shooting incident needs to be ignored... their brain is not functioning properly.
    Con deflection-

    When some 'libbo' goes off the reservation that is just a typical libbo, and ALL libbos are like this and must be eliminated.

    When some CON nut job goes off the reservation well that's just ONE bad apple (Speeches about DNA purity, racist signs, shooting cops, and calls for politicians who don't vote the way the CON loud mouth wants to be frogmarched out and shot, or some punk 'macho' speak about long range assassination)

    Radical mindsets breed radical actions- unfortunately most of the big talkers are too cowardly to back their crap up but it does incite others.

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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by TurtleDude View Post
    yawn-what "right wing noise machine"
    you aren't aware of the right wing noise machine......... How is it that you repeat so much of what they say.

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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    She sure was. She and her supporters.


    If you havenít been trolling the fever swamps of online conspiracy sites or opening those emails from Uncle Larry, you may well wonder: Where did this idea come from? Who started it? And is there a grain of truth there?

    The answer lies in Democratic, not Republican politics, and in the bitter, exhausting spring of 2008. At the time, the Democratic presidential primary was slipping away from Hillary Clinton and some of her most passionate supporters grasped for something, anything that would deal a final reversal to Barack Obama.



    Birtherism: Where it all began - Ben Smith and Byron Tau - POLITICO.com
    except HIllary never said a word about it....and the looked into it and dropped it immediately..........another right wing lie.

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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Ah, so it was her supporters, you agree.

    I think the guy discussed in the OP was a Hillary supporter, since we agree that Hillary supporters were the original birthers.
    nope still not true.....her supporters were involved at talking about it but: Hillary Clinton supporters were not the first birthers | Obama Conspiracy TheoriesObama Conspiracy Theories

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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Zyphlin View Post
    Yes, and it's not surprising. Those who are hyperpartisan ALWAYs try to take a situation and find a way to make it exceedingly political in an "us vs them" fashion and use it to attack and smear the entire side. It's what they do.

    The guilt by association notion is ridiculous here, but it's become a staple of politics. Whether or not he's a birther is largely irrelevant to his actions. Whether or not he's "far right wing" is pretty irrelevant as well. The only relevancy is attempting to do a political "7 steps to Kevin Bacon" as a means of attempting to smear "The right" and those within it as a whole based on the individual actions of one man.

    The reality is crazy conspiracy theorists reside on all sides of the political spectrum and, by and large, rarely actually represent an accurate depiction of the vast majority of those within that political wing.
    Yeah, but this is the 4th such shooting by people with the same conspiracy beliefs in 2 weeks. Don't you think that is kind of strange?
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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by beefheart View Post
    Uh, I saw a whole lot of extreme conservatives at Free Republic gushing over Putin....you know...he hates the gayz too!
    Freepers like Putin now? lulz.

    makes sense. that site is the DPRK of the internet. woohoo!


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    Re: Suspected: Birther shoots two law enforcement officers

    Quote Originally Posted by Sababa View Post
    except HIllary never said a word about it....and the looked into it and dropped it immediately..........another right wing lie.
    "another right wing lie"? It is amazing how some people will praise Hillary and know NOTHING about her. I have been on other forums where die hard Hillary supporters had NO idea that she was on the Board of Directors for that EVIL corporation WalMart. And those same lemmings had NO idea that Hillary was anti-union. And one of the most pathetic items about Hillary that the lemmings did NOT know was that Hillary was fired from the Watergate Comm. Hillary owns the Birther issue about Obama, it was her campaign that pushed it therefore she OWNS it.

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