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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    I think the greatest flaw in our immigration policy is that we make it so easy to become an undocumented immigrant, as opposed to a legal immigrant. If we streamline the immigration process and grant amnesty to illegal immigrants, there will be far less motivation to immigrate illegally. And it's a no brainer that these accusations need to be investigated, regardless of citizenship.

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    Because it is absolutely and simply NOT. No one is saying stop legal immigration. He'll we bring in MILLIONS annually...legally. This isn't about Latinos or immigration. Not even a little bit, as much as you might like to make it be.
    The Constitution Party is calling for a moratorium on immigration, actually. I'd bet there were many Republican voters who would favor their party endorsing this policy as well, if it weren't for losing moderate voters.

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    Tunnels between Canada and the US? Do you have a serious link to that? There was the XL Pipeline, which has now canceled by the Canadians government, but that's about it. There is no need for Canadians to escape to the US for a better life.
    Indeed. I'd be curious as to why so many Canadians would be interested in moving to a nation where their healthcare is not free and they must genuinely worry about crime.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Tunnels between Canada and the US? Do you have a serious link to that? There was the XL Pipeline, which has now canceled by the Canadians government, but that's about it. There is no need for Canadians to escape to the US for a better life.
    I saw that on TV a few years back. Since you asked nicely, I'll look for a link.
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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Tunnels between Canada and the US? Do you have a serious link to that? There was the XL Pipeline, which has now canceled by the Canadians government, but that's about it. There is no need for Canadians to escape to the US for a better life.
    OK, Grant. Here you go. It originated as a drug smuggling tunnel. However, I have seen in recent years that it was used to smuggle in undocumented immigrants, some from the middle east.

    .S.-Canadian drug smuggling tunnel[edit]

    In early 2005, a group of Canadian drug-smugglers took up the idea, and constructed a tunnel between a greenhouse in Langley, British Columbia and the basement of a house in Lynden, Washington, which lay across the ditch marking the United States-Canada border (the house on the Langley side was on 0 Avenue ("Zero Avenue"), which runs parallel to the border and is the baseline of Langley's avenue-numbering system). They bought the two properties and began construction work. Authorities were alerted when a neighbor noticed the large-scale construction work being undertaken in the greenhouse. On inspection, it was apparent that tons of construction material was entering, and piles of earth were coming out.

    It became known within a short time by both American and Canadian border authorities that a tunnel was being built. Video and audio devices were installed secretly by customs officials both at the termini and in the tunnel itself.

    On July 14, the tunnel having been completed, the first packs of marijuana began going through. Officials raided the home soon after and arrested the three men. They then appeared before court in Seattle.[3]

    Smuggling tunnel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I really don't think it is possible to 'seal' our borders. Too many miles, and too much land mass involved. I believe our only recourse is to make it so bad for those who come here without papers that it will no longer be profitable for them to do so. But, that day is a LONG way away, IMO.
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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    OK, Grant. Here you go. It originated as a drug smuggling tunnel. However, I have seen in recent years that it was used to smuggle in undocumented immigrants, some from the middle east.

    .S.-Canadian drug smuggling tunnel[edit]

    In early 2005, a group of Canadian drug-smugglers took up the idea, and constructed a tunnel between a greenhouse in Langley, British Columbia and the basement of a house in Lynden, Washington, which lay across the ditch marking the United States-Canada border (the house on the Langley side was on 0 Avenue ("Zero Avenue"), which runs parallel to the border and is the baseline of Langley's avenue-numbering system). They bought the two properties and began construction work. Authorities were alerted when a neighbor noticed the large-scale construction work being undertaken in the greenhouse. On inspection, it was apparent that tons of construction material was entering, and piles of earth were coming out.

    It became known within a short time by both American and Canadian border authorities that a tunnel was being built. Video and audio devices were installed secretly by customs officials both at the termini and in the tunnel itself.

    On July 14, the tunnel having been completed, the first packs of marijuana began going through. Officials raided the home soon after and arrested the three men. They then appeared before court in Seattle.[3]

    Smuggling tunnel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I really don't think it is possible to 'seal' our borders. Too many miles, and too much land mass involved. I believe our only recourse is to make it so bad for those who come here without papers that it will no longer be profitable for them to do so. But, that day is a LONG way away, IMO.
    Sure, I'll bet we get some drug running and even a little bit of illegal immigration from the Canadian border, but since Canada is a pretty well-run country without the problems that Mexico has, I don't really see illegal immigration from Canada being nearly the problem as it is from the southern border.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    Indeed. I'd be curious as to why so many Canadians would be interested in moving to a nation where their healthcare is not free and they must genuinely worry about crime.
    Health care is not free, doctor's and nurses also have to make a living, but I have never heard of any tunnels being built between Canada and the United States. I'd be very surprised if that were true.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    OK, Grant. Here you go. It originated as a drug smuggling tunnel. However, I have seen in recent years that it was used to smuggle in undocumented immigrants, some from the middle east.

    .S.-Canadian drug smuggling tunnel[edit]

    In early 2005, a group of Canadian drug-smugglers took up the idea, and constructed a tunnel between a greenhouse in Langley, British Columbia and the basement of a house in Lynden, Washington, which lay across the ditch marking the United States-Canada border (the house on the Langley side was on 0 Avenue ("Zero Avenue"), which runs parallel to the border and is the baseline of Langley's avenue-numbering system). They bought the two properties and began construction work. Authorities were alerted when a neighbor noticed the large-scale construction work being undertaken in the greenhouse. On inspection, it was apparent that tons of construction material was entering, and piles of earth were coming out.

    It became known within a short time by both American and Canadian border authorities that a tunnel was being built. Video and audio devices were installed secretly by customs officials both at the termini and in the tunnel itself.

    On July 14, the tunnel having been completed, the first packs of marijuana began going through. Officials raided the home soon after and arrested the three men. They then appeared before court in Seattle.[3]

    Smuggling tunnel - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    I really don't think it is possible to 'seal' our borders. Too many miles, and too much land mass involved. I believe our only recourse is to make it so bad for those who come here without papers that it will no longer be profitable for them to do so. But, that day is a LONG way away, IMO.
    Thanks very much for that!

    That would have been Surrey, not Langley, and it would have to be one of the dumbest ideas ever. No wonder these fools were caught immediately. Too much sampling of their product perhaps.

    There are seldom any problems with the US/Canadian border and any problems there are would work both ways. Boatload Of American Refugees Seek Asylum In Canada | THE LAPINE Let's not take the extraordinary and develop laws and policies based on that. Canadians and Americans have always had excellent relations, comparatively, and let's not lose that.
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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    There have been many complaints pied up over time with these types of accusations. I think an investigation needs to brought forward to this, and that the way we treat immigrants while in custody needs some major reform. If any of these accusations show to be true, then we need major overhaul in how we detain undocumented immigrants. [/FONT][/COLOR]
    I don't believe a single bit of it. Not at all. Nor do I find it surprising that those that defend anything this president does, going after those 'evil law enforcement' people.

    The only thing our LE should be doing down there is turning these kids around and making them walk back into mexico. Period.
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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by SocialDemocrat View Post
    If we streamline the immigration process and grant amnesty to illegal immigrants, there will be far less motivation to immigrate illegally.
    WOW. So out of touch.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Arbo View Post
    I don't believe a single bit of it. Not at all. Nor do I find it surprising that those that defend anything this president does, going after those 'evil law enforcement' people.

    The only thing our LE should be doing down there is turning these kids around and making them walk back into mexico. Period.
    I SAY we treat ALL illegals coming into these shelters as HORRIBLE as possible (minus the rape and stuff thats wrong). Lets put them all out in the dessert with nothing but little aluminum shelters, a couple wells, and a couple of holes in the ground to crap in, and a bucket of slop to eat. They come here thinking we'll take care of them, but if we make the conditions here worse than their own home countries, they WILL go back and they will TELL their FRIENDS not to come here because it is hell.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterLiberty View Post
    I SAY we treat ALL illegals coming into these shelters as HORRIBLE as possible (minus the rape and stuff thats wrong). Lets put them all out in the dessert with nothing but little aluminum shelters, a couple wells, and a couple of holes in the ground to crap in, and a bucket of slop to eat. They come here thinking we'll take care of them, but if we make the conditions here worse than their own home countries, they WILL go back and they will TELL their FRIENDS not to come here because it is hell.
    We would need to have people in DC that have read the Constitution and agree to defend this nation in order for that to happen.

    This is what you will see, even though the president has said these kids "can not stay": We will do nothing to stop the flow into the USA, we will house and feed them. There is already 'advertisements' from the government for people to 'chaperone' these kids throughout the country… yes, they are seeking companies/people to watch after them. They will be moved all over the country so it is harder down the road to kick them out.
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