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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

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    What alarms me is people who are full of racial hatred and bigotry.

    Fortunately they are a minority of the population and will never control the USA.




    "At the heart of racism is the religious assertion that God made a creative mistake when He brought some people into being." ~ Friedrich Otto Hertz
    Yay! The race card. Of COURSE it is about racism. It isn't about massive failed federal government, rampant illegal immigration, the connection to trafficking in humans, drugs, guns, etc. It's not the massive drain on an already battered economy not open flaunting of the law.

    It's about racism.


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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    We have to start really shoring up our borders to prevent these things from happening to begin with. I have to wonder why a lot of the democrats refuse to acknowledge this problem and, in fact, actually encourage it at times. I have to think it's for votes because there really is no other benefit to illegal immigration to America (even though the smarmy partisans will lie and say that there is).
    You don't hear much about it, but they come in from Canada too. There are tunnels underneath the border between us and Canada. There may even be tunnels between us and Mexico. They do manage to get across, and the 'coyotes' the ones who help them get across the border know all the tricks. They make big bucks shuttling others in to this country, yet they, themselves, do not come here.

    People have been aimed at our shores for as far back as I can remember. Remember the Cuban boat people? People from Cuba still drown from time to time trying to get here. If they can just get here, then they have rights.

    Honestly as many Mexicans as we have working in this country, it is pretty clear that they are needed in the labor force. And really, if they are paying into Social Security, it is just wrong to take the money and not let them have that benefit. It simply makes them a new slave class in t his country. I am for some serious increase in the work visas that are allowed from there. The current number that is allowed keeps a well intended legal immigrant waiting for over 10 years. He is better off to jump the border and let the cards fall where they may. The system has many chinks that need to be filled and our government needs to get a handle on it. In reality, I don't remember a time when immigrants were well received. I mean, the Indians fought us. The Irish were lower than dirt, and where did the term wop, dago come from? Where did Pollock jokes come from? Immigrants are always gong to be seen as sapping our resources. Most, even the illegal ones, are not because they work, spend money here, pay taxes albeit under fake numbers. SS just takes the money even if the SS number is fake or stolen. They pay about a billion a year into our SS, but have no system of being able to draw on it.

    This situation is something entirely different. These are underage people some very young. They are not here to work and this is an overt attempt to put a strain on our system and it worked. I expect more.
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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Too bad the Feds didn't protect the border the way they do employees of the IRS.
    We should protect our southern border like mejico protects ITS southern border.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post

    Yay! The race card. Of COURSE it is about racism. It isn't about massive failed federal government, rampant illegal immigration, the connection to trafficking in humans, drugs, guns, etc. It's not the massive drain on an already battered economy not open flaunting of the law.
    It's about racism.









    If you say so.

    Why can't it be about more than one thing?

    Why can't it be about a lot of things, Including racism (Which we still have some of in the USA)?

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

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    If you say so.

    Why can't it be about more than one thing?

    Why can't it be about a lot of things, Including racism (Which we still have some of in the USA)?
    Because it is absolutely and simply NOT. No one is saying stop legal immigration. He'll we bring in MILLIONS annually...legally. This isn't about Latinos or immigration. Not even a little bit, as much as you might like to make it be.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

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    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    Because it is absolutely and simply NOT. No one is saying stop legal immigration. He'll we bring in MILLIONS annually...legally. T
    his isn't about Latinos or immigration. Not even a little bit, as much as you might like to make it be.



    What I might like it to be has nothing to do with what actually happened in this sad case.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Yay! The race card. Of COURSE it is about racism. It isn't about massive failed federal government, rampant illegal immigration, the connection to trafficking in humans, drugs, guns, etc. It's not the massive drain on an already battered economy not open flaunting of the law. It's about racism.
    Their understanding of politics is always about 'racism', 'sexism' or, the catch-all, 'right wing'. To expect anything more than that has a low success rate, but some eventually catch on.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    You don't hear much about it, but they come in from Canada too. There are tunnels underneath the border between us and Canada. There may even be tunnels between us and Mexico. They do manage to get across, and the 'coyotes' the ones who help them get across the border know all the tricks. They make big bucks shuttling others in to this country, yet they, themselves, do not come here.

    People have been aimed at our shores for as far back as I can remember. Remember the Cuban boat people? People from Cuba still drown from time to time trying to get here. If they can just get here, then they have rights.

    Honestly as many Mexicans as we have working in this country, it is pretty clear that they are needed in the labor force. And really, if they are paying into Social Security, it is just wrong to take the money and not let them have that benefit. It simply makes them a new slave class in t his country. I am for some serious increase in the work visas that are allowed from there. The current number that is allowed keeps a well intended legal immigrant waiting for over 10 years. He is better off to jump the border and let the cards fall where they may. The system has many chinks that need to be filled and our government needs to get a handle on it. In reality, I don't remember a time when immigrants were well received. I mean, the Indians fought us. The Irish were lower than dirt, and where did the term wop, dago come from? Where did Pollock jokes come from? Immigrants are always gong to be seen as sapping our resources. Most, even the illegal ones, are not because they work, spend money here, pay taxes albeit under fake numbers. SS just takes the money even if the SS number is fake or stolen. They pay about a billion a year into our SS, but have no system of being able to draw on it.

    This situation is something entirely different. These are underage people some very young. They are not here to work and this is an overt attempt to put a strain on our system and it worked. I expect more.
    Tunnels between Canada and the US? Do you have a serious link to that? There was the XL Pipeline, which has now canceled by the Canadians government, but that's about it. There is no need for Canadians to escape to the US for a better life.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

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    What I might like it to be has nothing to do with what actually happened in this sad case.
    Why thats just horse**** son and you said so yourself.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    You don't hear much about it, but they come in from Canada too. There are tunnels underneath the border between us and Canada. There may even be tunnels between us and Mexico. They do manage to get across, and the 'coyotes' the ones who help them get across the border know all the tricks. They make big bucks shuttling others in to this country, yet they, themselves, do not come here.

    People have been aimed at our shores for as far back as I can remember. Remember the Cuban boat people? People from Cuba still drown from time to time trying to get here. If they can just get here, then they have rights.

    Honestly as many Mexicans as we have working in this country, it is pretty clear that they are needed in the labor force. And really, if they are paying into Social Security, it is just wrong to take the money and not let them have that benefit. It simply makes them a new slave class in t his country. I am for some serious increase in the work visas that are allowed from there. The current number that is allowed keeps a well intended legal immigrant waiting for over 10 years. He is better off to jump the border and let the cards fall where they may. The system has many chinks that need to be filled and our government needs to get a handle on it. In reality, I don't remember a time when immigrants were well received. I mean, the Indians fought us. The Irish were lower than dirt, and where did the term wop, dago come from? Where did Pollock jokes come from? Immigrants are always gong to be seen as sapping our resources. Most, even the illegal ones, are not because they work, spend money here, pay taxes albeit under fake numbers. SS just takes the money even if the SS number is fake or stolen. They pay about a billion a year into our SS, but have no system of being able to draw on it.

    This situation is something entirely different. These are underage people some very young. They are not here to work and this is an overt attempt to put a strain on our system and it worked. I expect more.
    Canada just doesn't have the problems that our neighbors to the south have. I don't see a huge issue with illegal immigrants coming from Canada since it is NOT a hell hole like Mexico where drug wars rage and the government is paid off and bribed by the drug cartels. Mexico is just a great big mess, and no one seems to be interested in fixing it.

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