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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    The hope, clearly, is that because these are children, they won't be sent back.

    Most of the children are from Guatamala, El Salvador, and Honduras...a very, very long trip. How did these hundreds and thousands of kids make it to the border?

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

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    I don't disagree but the problem I see is that we're dealing with people who have plenty of incentive to lie. That doesn't mean they're actually lying, of course, but I don't know that there is any real credible evidence that abuse is as widespread as the people indicate.
    Do you think that BP agents might not have an incentive to lie, en masse, if it meant their careers?
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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    So a bunch of thugs come across the border illegally along with a bunch of children, who also crossed illegally, and it's somehow our fault that things aren't peachy for them? Hmmm....

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

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    So a bunch of thugs come across the border illegally along with a bunch of children, who also crossed illegally, and it's somehow our fault that things aren't peachy for them? Hmmm....
    cus·to·dy [kuhs-tuh-dee]

    noun, plural cus·to·dies.

    1. keeping; guardianship; care.
    If the detainees were in our care, they are to be taken care of. Nobody is saying it has to be peachy, but protection from rape and abuse is a basic human right as a detainee.

    If you disagree, maybe you should be in Iran, where they behead their detainees, or burn them alive as they hang them from street signs.
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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    There would be no crisis event if people would quit crossing into the US illegally.

    Yes sir, our borders are secure. Homeland Security told us so.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    I am unwilling to blame the overworked, understaffed, underfunded Border Patrol until there is hard evidence of abuse. My bet is that if there is, it will be isolated incidents. I hope that any agent who crossed the line is disciplined. But the entire premise of this thread is to find fault with the Border Patrol when, in my view, it's doing the best that it can in an overwhelming situation that is requiring the transporting of minors to other states and meanwhile providing them with shelter, food, baths, and so on.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    If the detainees were in our care, they are to be taken care of. Nobody is saying it has to be peachy, but protection from rape and abuse is a basic human right as a detainee.

    If you disagree, maybe you should be in Iran, where they behead their detainees, or burn them alive as they hang them from street signs.
    I don't disagree, but when the border is overwhelmed, bad things happen. I don't get all sweaty and fevered when they're served frozen sandwiches, and while I hate it that some are abused, they or their parents bear primary responsibility - they're the ones who came here illegally. I don't know about you, but when I illegally trespass, I generally don't expect to be treated especially well. Just saying that the outrage should be directed elsewhere. I'm pretty certain the BP is doing all it can. The obvious solution would be for them to stay home.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Do you think that BP agents might not have an incentive to lie, en masse, if it meant their careers?
    What would the BP agents be lying about? and why would it mean their careers?

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Do you think that BP agents might not have an incentive to lie, en masse, if it meant their careers?
    Do you think there are really that many animals working in the Border Patrol?
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Immigrant Children Raped, Punched, Kicked in Border Patrol Custody: Complaint

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    If the detainees were in our care, they are to be taken care of. Nobody is saying it has to be peachy, but protection from rape and abuse is a basic human right as a detainee.

    If you disagree, maybe you should be in Iran, where they behead their detainees, or burn them alive as they hang them from street signs.
    I say we weed out the dirtbags and gang-bangers among the immigrants--not detainees--a cart their butts back to where they came from.

    We have enough garbage in this country, as it is, we don't need to import more.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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