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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

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    Oh. I think it might work out similarly to how running against George Bush did in 2008.
    Because it worked so well in 2012!!

    But don't let me stop you, or the GOP, from thinking that is a winning strategy. It is my hope that they all continue thinking that they can win by defining themselves by what they oppose, instead of what they are for.

    And one of our problems in 2012 was that we selected the guy least-suited to running against the ACA, whose problems hadn't even been forced upon the American people yet.
    That is true, but the other candidates were even less suitable to win the election. And as far as the problems not haven been "forced" on americans then, the fact is that since those "problems" have been forced on them, opposition to ACA has *decreased*

    Iraq and Syria are imploding, and Obama is getting ready for Afghanistan to implode. 2016 will feature a Democrat candidate completely incapable of distancing herself from Obama's foreign policy, having run most of it. It would be as if instead of McCain in 2008, Republicans had run Henry Paulson.
    The elections will not be decided by what is going on in those places. I doubt those things will even be a small factor in most people's minds when they vote.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Anyone who trusts ANY medium/major politician in Washington (from either party) is staggeringly naive, IMO.

    Oh course Obama lies; so did GW Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, Carter, etc.......they ALL LIED.

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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Because it worked so well in 2012!!
    In 2012 Obama still had fairly high favorability ratings. The ongoing crises-to-crises that is the result of his failed leadership now is driving those numbers down into George W territory, which is why we have threads like these.

    That is true, but the other candidates were even less suitable to win the election. And as far as the problems not haven been "forced" on americans then, the fact is that since those "problems" have been forced on them, opposition to ACA has *decreased*
    You think so, eh? Good luck with that.

    Gallup Editor-in-Chief Frank Newport shares that 52% of Americans disapprove of the Affordable Care Act, up slightly from 45% in November 2012



    The ACA is less popular than it was in November of 2012.

    Additionally, because it's now actually impacting people, you get increased saliency and decision-making based on the issue. By more than two-to-one, Americans say the ACA has hurt rather than helped them, and when you add up the fact that people are loss-averse and include all the close friends and family of those individuals, the number of those most likely to respond negatively expands rather quickly. My father, for example, was an ACA supporter until his sister, my aunt, who is a 62 year old single retiree was kicked off her insurance and unable to afford the exchange options because her insurance (which she loved) lacked pediatric dental coverage for the children she did not have. Which is part of why three in 10 registered voters say when they vote for a candidate in the fall midterm elections, it will be to send a message that they oppose U.S. President Barack Obama, equal to the amount who said this before the Republican wave election of 2010.

    The elections will not be decided by what is going on in those places. I doubt those things will even be a small factor in most people's minds when they vote.
    If Hillary Clinton is running claiming that she has the personal ability to do a good job as President, you can pretty much bet everything you own on Republicans spending as much time as possible pointing out that the one major national level post she's held was overseeing the complete collapse of American foreign policy that had hugely deleterious effects for tens of millions of people.

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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    In 2012 Obama still had fairly high favorability ratings. The ongoing crises-to-crises that is the result of his failed leadership now is driving those numbers down into George W territory, which is why we have threads like these.
    Nonsense. His highest disapproval ratings of his presidency was just a few months before the election and the only crisis-to-crisis that exists is in the minds of the far right



    You think so, eh? Good luck with that.
    I do


    If Hillary Clinton is running claiming that she has the personal ability to do a good job as President, you can pretty much bet everything you own on Republicans spending as much time as possible pointing out that the one major national level post she's held was overseeing the complete collapse of American foreign policy that had hugely deleterious effects for tens of millions of people.
    Again, the only people who think that there has been a foriegn policy disaster are the far righties. most americans don't really give a crap.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    I bet a lot of those people will never vote for Obama again
    Better yet never vote for a liberal again. Period
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    Anyone who trusts ANY medium/major politician in Washington (from either party) is staggeringly naive, IMO.

    Oh course Obama lies; so did GW Bush, Clinton, Bush Sr., Reagan, Carter, etc.......they ALL LIED.
    Yeah, but Obama is in your face a liar. Further he is the only president to be awarded the honored "Liar of the year award"
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Yeah, but Obama is in your face a liar. Further he is the only president to be awarded the honored "Liar of the year award"
    For starters, Obama didn't win the "Liar of the Year" award, except maybe from the Born Free Times. He "won" the "Lie of the Year" award from Politifact.

    There's an extremely good reason Obama is the only president to "win" that award -- Politifact has only been handing it out since 2009. He's the only president to win it, since he's the only president we've had since the "award" started.

    A brief history of PolitiFact’s ‘Lie of the Year’ - The Washington Post

    PolitiFact has been giving out the award since 2009. Four in five times, it has opted for a claim related to health care. In some cases, a Republican claim has taken the award. In others, Democrats' words came under scrutiny.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

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    Better yet never vote for a liberal again. Period
    Well, since voting conservative would be at least equally as stupid, you seem to be advocating for people to not vote.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by CaptainCourtesy View Post
    Well, since voting conservative would be at least equally as stupid, you seem to be advocating for people to not vote.
    i believe the greeks invented a word to describe people who did not vote. it was used as a insult and it is still used today.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    For starters, Obama didn't win the "Liar of the Year" award, except maybe from the Born Free Times. He "won" the "Lie of the Year" award from Politifact.

    There's an extremely good reason Obama is the only president to "win" that award -- Politifact has only been handing it out since 2009. He's the only president to win it, since he's the only president we've had since the "award" started.

    A brief history of PolitiFact’s ‘Lie of the Year’ - The Washington Post



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    There were a lot of outlets who took that "Lie of the Year" award and blared it into the headlines "Obama liar of the year". Technically that would be true I guess if you say that the person who told the lie of the year is a liar.

    But your point is also right that they haven't been giving out that award all that long.

    It's a liar who tells the lie of the year, so even if it wasn't an official award (Liar of the Year), you can still make the case that he was the liar of the year.

    Either way, it isn't good for Obama. Not a stellar award.

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