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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Well no, he wasn't the MVP in 2011. Justin Verlander won the award.
    The award, like the Politifact's Lie of the Year, is subjective. As with Politifacts getting Obama's whopper wrong in 2009, MLB got the MVP voting wrong in 2011.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    I'm not going to give WND too much attention since they did hang on to the whole birth certificate issue for too long, but the article does do a nice job of reminding people that Politifact can't necessarily be trusted, given that the "Lie of the Year" in 2013 was the same Obama promise that they rated "True" in 2008.

    The commments in that article about NICE are pretty thought provoking.

    Hell, in 2009 I'm sure people would say with conviction that the VA system didn't contain death panels either, and recent reports make one look at the VA with a little skepticism too......
    so politiifact cannot be trusted because it changed its opinion? that seems to be harsh standard of judging the bias of news sources
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Death panel are in the bill GET OVER IT he is a murderer.

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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I dismissed what you posted because it came from a source that routinely lies to smear Obama. Find a better source and I won't dismiss it.
    As I said - pathetically weak to attack the source and not the content of the argument. Duly noted.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    The award, like the Politifact's Lie of the Year, is subjective. As with Politifacts getting Obama's whopper wrong in 2009, MLB got the MVP voting wrong in 2011.
    Mkay.

    I love how offhandedly pointing out a minor quibble with one of Born Free's posts has taken this thread in an ... interesting direction.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Why are there so many posts in this thread about each other and not about Obama and the poll? Any chance we can get back to the OP, which is far more interesting?

    Is Obama trutworthy and honest, or isn't he?

    I know I don't need WND or MSNBC or any other site to make up my mind. I know what he said in 2008, and I know what he's done, and he wasn't honest. He's a politician, even though for some strange reason he actually had people believing he was going to do things outside the Washington way.

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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As I said - pathetically weak to attack the source and not the content of the argument. Duly noted.
    I'll remember that the next time you get on someone for using Media Matters as a source.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Why are there so many posts in this thread about each other and not about Obama and the poll? Any chance we can get back to the OP, which is far more interesting?

    Is Obama trutworthy and honest, or isn't he?

    I know I don't need WND or MSNBC or any other site to make up my mind. I know what he said in 2008, and I know what he's done, and he wasn't honest. He's a politician, even though for some strange reason he actually had people believing he was going to do things outside the Washington way.
    I would say no, he's not particularly honest or trustworthy, which separates him from 99% of the schmucks in Washington ... not at all.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I would say no, he's not particularly honest or trustworthy, which separates him from 99% of the schmucks in Washington ... not at all.
    An honest politician is an oxymoron.
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    Re: Gallup: Majority Says Obama Not ‘Honest and Trustworthy’

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    As I said - pathetically weak to attack the source and not the content of the argument. Duly noted.
    Thats how they roll once they lose or cannot refute the information they attack the source that is how they are trained at the official paid shill jobs they have.

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