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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Law, how many laws have passed giving the native Americans tax breaks, grants, loans, reparations, land etc etc.
    So what?

    That causes anti-racist commercials to make you angry?

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    So what?

    That causes anti-racist commercials to make you angry?
    You equate anger with "tired of too many easily butt hurt cry babies".

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    People need to grow up and stop concerning themselves with what teams are named.
    why? Are you suggesting we don't have a right to an opinion?

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    By what criteria is the name racist?
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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    By what criteria is the name racist?
    It's a slur.

    Even if it was a positive generalization (as some claim) that is still harmful to society as it perpetuates a stereotype at the expense of non-militant Native Americans in portraying them, as a whole, as warmongers.

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    I'm offended by the 49ers, it gives the impression that people from San Fransisco are all greedy prospectors. I'm offended by the Raiders, Oakland may be a slum filled with crime but calling them Raiders perpetuates the cycle and encourages theft and murder. Don't even get me started on the chiefs.

    Free speech, let them air a commercial. I'm free to mock it. I can't help but think much of the time people want to be "offended" and force change as a means of exerting power. I'm from DC, I'm part Native American and I grew up rooting for the Redskins. I'm not offended at all and I don't think the Redskins should change their name.
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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Anti-Redskins commercial to air during NBA Finals

    Posted by Michael David Smith on June 10, 2014, 9:00 AM EDT
    Getty ImagesOpponents of the name of the Washington Redskins will air their message before a large audience of sports fans tonight.
    The Washington Post reports that the Yocha Dehe Wintun Nation, a tribe based in California, has paid for a 60-second anti-Redskins commercial to run during halftime of tonight’s NBA Finals game. The ad will run in Chicago, Dallas, Los Angeles, New York, Sacramento, San Francisco and Washington, and the tribe said it made a “significant investment” to purchase the air time.
    The commercial begins with a long montage of names and labels that Native Americans call themselves, like “proud” and “forgotten,” “Navajo” and “Blackfoot,” “patriot” and “soldier,” “Jim Thorpe” and “Billy Mills.” It ends with the narrator saying, “Native Americans call themselves many things. The one thing they don’t” and then an image of a Redskins helmet.
    A longer version of the ad was posted on YouTube just before the Super Bowl and has been viewed nearly 2 million times.


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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    They've been called the Redskins for what, 77 years? Why now, within the last year, has it become such an issue? Why not when they were winning Super Bowl championships?

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    It's a slur.

    Even if it was a positive generalization (as some claim) that is still harmful to society as it perpetuates a stereotype at the expense of non-militant Native Americans in portraying them, as a whole, as warmongers.
    But stereotypes are not necessarily racist. Racism requires that the racist considers himself superior by virtue of his race. When we use the term redskin are we claiming that white people are superior? 150 years ago? Probably. Today. I'm not so sure.

    Honestly there are alot more important things to worry about.
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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    But stereotypes are not necessarily racist.
    Of course they are. They serve majority power dominance.

    Racism is not as much about perceived superiority as systemic privilege. It's a social construct, and thereby not equal to individual actions. Bigotry is an individual action, but for it to be racism (or sexism) requires societal backing.

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