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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    I'm thinking that to get the Redskins to change their name, if their owner even would, would require compensation to the owner in the hundreds of millions of dollars. Redskins is a very valuable brand name, and no one in their right mind would just dump it for a new name without being heavily compensated.

    Entertaining this whole name change idea, who would compensate the owner?

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    Citation? I've seen that claim twice without citation.

    Anyway, it's not the first time a HS had a racist name that needed to be changed.
    Im all for removing every Indian name, nickname, street, city name, school mascot name...all of it. Just completely eliminate it all. Out of respect of course.

    It all gets rather silly. The majority of Indians in this country (some stats said as high as 90%) dont care, dont see it as offensive, hell, they root for them. I suppose a liot of them see the REAL problems their people face and are more concerned about THOSE issues other than a sports team and mascot.

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Im all for removing every Indian name, nickname, street, city name, school mascot name...all of it. Just completely eliminate it all. Out of respect of course.
    I bet you are. But that's not the same thing as removing a slur.

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Every few months a thread about this topic pops up. You know what NEVER pops up? Threads and concerns about

    "In the reservations but also outside the Native Americans have to deal with further worrying social developments: of all ethnic groups in the USA the American Indians have the

    highest rate of school drop outs (about 54%),
    highest rate of child mortality,
    highest rate of suicide
    highest rate of teenage suicide ( 18.5 per 100,000),
    highest rate of teenage pregnancy,
    lowest life expectancy ( 55 years)
    Drug abuse and alcoholism have become mass problems among the American Indians (in some reservations eight families out of ten have problems with alcoholism) and unfortunately among their children, too. For those the confrontation with unemployment, environmental destruction, the decay of the reservations and the lack of positive future prospects and leisure time activities to distract them situation, are probably hard to bear.

    Caused or at least promoted by drug abuse, there is a lot of crime in the reservations and outside of which the American Indians (especially children) are victims and offenders (especially young adults) at the same rate: Domestic violence, rape, child abuse and child neglect are reported to take place very often in the reservations, with the estimated number of unknown cases being very high.

    Furthermore in the recent years gang violence in the reservations has increased, fueled by weak law enforcement, youth unemployment and the lack of activities for young Indians and with the results of vandalism, theft, assaults (also sexual) and street fights."
    http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/America...rrent_problems

    So TELL me people actually give a **** about the team name.

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    I bet you are. But that's not the same thing as removing a slur.
    I work with Indians. Our victim advocates serve families on the Goshute reservation. We have Indians sitting on the county DV and Child Abuse coalitions. You know what I NEVER hear them talking about?

    The Redskins.

    I've never seen you write **** about Indians unless its THIS topic. Ive never seen you post a single comment about their real world problems. TELL me you 'care' about Indians.

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    What race do you belong to? Are you "one of the good ones"?
    One of the good ones?

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I work with Indians.
    Are you trying to prove something?

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    That doesn't make etymological sense. Why would one race be referred to as "<color> <man>" and the other "<color> <skin>". That's inherently degrading to the race not called man.

    I don't believe a culture would label others 'man' and themselves less.

    I think you're the one lying or mistaken.
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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Every few months a thread about this topic pops up. You know what NEVER pops up? Threads and concerns about

    "In the reservations but also outside the Native Americans have to deal with further worrying social developments: of all ethnic groups in the USA the American Indians have the

    highest rate of school drop outs (about 54%),
    highest rate of child mortality,
    highest rate of suicide
    highest rate of teenage suicide ( 18.5 per 100,000),
    highest rate of teenage pregnancy,
    lowest life expectancy ( 55 years)
    Drug abuse and alcoholism have become mass problems among the American Indians (in some reservations eight families out of ten have problems with alcoholism) and unfortunately among their children, too. For those the confrontation with unemployment, environmental destruction, the decay of the reservations and the lack of positive future prospects and leisure time activities to distract them situation, are probably hard to bear.

    Caused or at least promoted by drug abuse, there is a lot of crime in the reservations and outside of which the American Indians (especially children) are victims and offenders (especially young adults) at the same rate: Domestic violence, rape, child abuse and child neglect are reported to take place very often in the reservations, with the estimated number of unknown cases being very high.

    Furthermore in the recent years gang violence in the reservations has increased, fueled by weak law enforcement, youth unemployment and the lack of activities for young Indians and with the results of vandalism, theft, assaults (also sexual) and street fights."
    American Indians Today/Current problems - Wikibooks, open books for an open world

    So TELL me people actually give a **** about the team name.
    Clearly you are nothing but a racist.

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    Re: Tonighjt June 11 Watch The NBA Half Time For A Redskins Protest of Racism

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    I work with Indians. Our victim advocates serve families on the Goshute reservation. We have Indians sitting on the county DV and Child Abuse coalitions. You know what I NEVER hear them talking about?

    The Redskins.
    Anyone needing a victim advocacy program hasn't time for worrying about team names, of course.


    I've never seen you write **** about Indians unless its THIS topic. Ive never seen you post a single comment about their real world problems. TELL me you 'care' about Indians.
    Did I claim Native Americans to be an issue of mine? No, but racism is.

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