Page 5 of 7 FirstFirst ... 34567 LastLast
Results 41 to 50 of 68

Thread: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

  1. #41
    Sage
    Sherman123's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jul 2012
    Location
    Northeast US
    Last Seen
    11-23-17 @ 11:12 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Undisclosed
    Posts
    7,774

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Cryptic View Post
    What troubling aspect is not the Kiowa per se. What is really troubling is what it signifies. The helicopters were captured at the airport. Not only are airports more defendable, but many developing countries keep a good number of paramilitary police on site at all times. They can also be reinforced quickly.

    In this case, the Iraqi security forces collapsed so completely that they were not only unable to rally at the airport, but they did not even take easily movable equipment (assuming the helicopters were fylable) with them when they fled.
    The collapse of the Iraqi military in Mosul is certainly of enormous concern, you are right. I just don't see the point in emphasizing that they captured some of these helicopters because it isn't a big deal. The collapse, as you identify, is what is important.

  2. #42
    Guru

    Join Date
    Feb 2014
    Last Seen
    Today @ 11:27 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    3,899

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    The collapse of the Iraqi military in Mosul is certainly of enormous concern, you are right. I just don't see the point in emphasizing that they captured some of these helicopters because it isn't a big deal. The collapse, as you identify, is what is important.
    Hopefully, the Kurish forces can take Mosul back. If they do, they may well end up keeping it as a new addition to Kurdistan though.

  3. #43
    Paying To Play
    AJiveMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    wisconSIN
    Last Seen
    05-15-15 @ 04:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,775

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Whos going to shoot it down? The Iraqi army doesn't seem to be doing anything but dropping their arms and heading for the hills.
    True, I'll bet Malaki would just have loved to have some A10's and a few helicopters with qualified airmen to take ISIS out while they were motoring to different cities in Iraq. Would have been like shooting fish in a barrel, like the US did on that road to Baghdad from Kuwait in desert storm.

    I saw a video clip of ISIS traveling single file on a desert road, it would have been too easy.


  4. #44
    Iconoclast
    DaveFagan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2011
    Location
    wny
    Last Seen
    Today @ 01:17 PM
    Lean
    Conservative
    Posts
    7,292

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    It seems obvious that the Mosul civilian leadership and military leadership were "in the bag" for the ISIS assault. I don't hear of many shots being fired, so it looks more like genuine Iraqi "rebels" against Maliki's authoritarian Shia leadership. I also suspect US involvement because of the lack of Satellite and CIA boots on the ground information warning of the attack. This is all very good for the Saudi OIL interests and profitability and money motives that move the World. The Sunnis and the Kurds appear to have revolted against the Baghdad leadership. Ergo, follow the money and see who has been supporting these insurgencies at a discreet level. The USA had been arming ISIS with Libyan weapons funneled through the US Embassy in Benghazi and money as well. Turkey had been assisting the ISIS. The Saudis have been funding and arming the ISIS. Is the picture beginning to come into focus yet? An army of 30,000 troops, as in Mosul, doesn't fight if its' leadership tells it not to fight. Focus, focus, concentrate on reality, turn off your Mainstream Media and find out what is really going on.

  5. #45
    Wrinkly member
    Manc Skipper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Southern England
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    23,171

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Many of the refugees talk of disenchantment with the Malaki government, who've shown little inclination for reconciling with the Sunni population. They don't fear the ISIS, but they do fear indiscriminate retaliatory air-strikes from their own government. It would be no huge step for Malaki to descend into Assad mode.
    Don't work out, work in.

    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

  6. #46
    Sage
    shrubnose's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2013
    Location
    Europe
    Last Seen
    11-29-17 @ 03:46 AM
    Gender
    Lean
    Centrist
    Posts
    18,851
    Blog Entries
    2

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I bet Maliki is regretting the hell out of demanding we get out of Iraq.



    He might beg Obama for a do-over on that.

  7. #47
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,332

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    Many of the refugees talk of disenchantment with the Malaki government, who've shown little inclination for reconciling with the Sunni population. They don't fear the ISIS, but they do fear indiscriminate retaliatory air-strikes from their own government. It would be no huge step for Malaki to descend into Assad mode.
    They fear ISIS more than you think.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

  8. #48
    Paying To Play
    AJiveMan's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    wisconSIN
    Last Seen
    05-15-15 @ 04:04 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Other
    Posts
    5,775

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by shrubnose View Post
    He might beg Obama for a do-over on that.
    How's that song go? "It's too late baby, now it's too late" ?

    He'd need to show his appreciation by humping Obama's leg first, I think.

  9. #49
    Wrinkly member
    Manc Skipper's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jan 2008
    Location
    Southern England
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:08 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Slightly Liberal
    Posts
    23,171

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They fear ISIS more than you think.
    I'm only going by what they actually said to a BBC reporter and a camera. Where's your information from? Your nether regions?
    Don't work out, work in.

    Never eat anything that's served in a bucket.

  10. #50
    Sage
    apdst's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2009
    Location
    Bagdad, La.
    Last Seen
    Today @ 04:15 PM
    Gender
    Lean
    Very Conservative
    Posts
    76,332

    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Manc Skipper View Post
    I'm only going by what they actually said to a BBC reporter and a camera. Where's your information from? Your nether regions?
    I'm going by the half-million people who are running from ISIS forces.

    http://m.washingtonpost.com/news/mor...ying-violence/
    Last edited by apdst; 06-15-14 at 04:43 PM.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

Page 5 of 7 FirstFirst ... 34567 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •