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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    No but considering the rate and pace that territory and equipment is being lost to the Jihadies it would make sense to have one available in the area in case an opportunity arose. You seem to think that Johnny Jihad is a bunch of amateurs and its amateur hour. I have dealt these types of bastards personally before and it is stupid to underestimate them. I hate their guts and would kill every one of them and their kin if given the chance, that said I have a very healthy respect for them would NEVER take chances with them. If they acquired helicopters then the Iranians or whoever else might just send pilots to use them if only for a one or two missions. Helicopters would make a very powerful and flexible VBED. Not to mention just as a support gunship if they mount heavy guns in the doors. I would not be surprised in the least if they are using them as we write.
    The current Govt. of Iraq grew up in Iran, they also supply gasoline to Iran violating UN sanctions. Iran would send pilots to fly helicopters in support of the Iraqi Govt. not against them. In fact this uprising is Iran's problem not ours. Sunni's which is the sect that Alqueada belongs are sworn enemies of Iranian Shiites.
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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    No question now, Iraq is in danger of sliding into failed state status. They had such a good shot at freedom and prosperity and really blew it.

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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    The current Govt. of Iraq grew up in Iran, they also supply gasoline to Iran violating UN sanctions. Iran would send pilots to fly helicopters in support of the Iraqi Govt. not against them. In fact this uprising is Iran's problem not ours. Sunni's which is the sect that Alqueada belongs are sworn enemies of Iranian Shiites.
    I am not sure who the current Jihadi twits belong to you could be right. I did hear that apparently the Iraqi government is asking the Kurds to assist in the removal of the vermin though so maybe the Iranians wont be involved directly. Anyhow I hope we stay out of it.
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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by faithful_servant View Post
    IMO, ANY high-tech weapon we send to another country should have some kind of remote kill switch installed. For a Blackhawk, the entertaining form would be a switch that disconnected the main rotor blades on demand. That way, our troops could sit back watch as the bad guys swoop into attack them and then suddenly find themselves without any lift whatsoever. The realistic version would be a simple command that would disable the fly-by-wire, put the helo into auto-rotate mode and watch it "float" to the ground.

    That's a double edged sword. One has to be very careful with that capability, as it can be used against you.
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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    I can't find any reference to helicopters being captured in the article. Is it in the embedded video?

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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    I can't find any reference to helicopters being captured in the article. Is it in the embedded video?
    'But the worst news by far for the US is that as a result of the takeover of Mosul by ISIS forces, an unknown number, and at least one, US ultramodern Blackhawk and Kiowa helicopters parked at the Mosul airport, are now in, you guessed it, Al Qaeda hands.'

    Go to near the bottom of the page...just above the twitter tweets.

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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    They have a Kiowa??? Good god Iraq is doomed.

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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by DA60 View Post
    'But the worst news by far for the US is that as a result of the takeover of Mosul by ISIS forces, an unknown number, and at least one, US ultramodern Blackhawk and Kiowa helicopters parked at the Mosul airport, are now in, you guessed it, Al Qaeda hands.'

    Go to near the bottom of the page...just above the twitter tweets.
    Thanks.

    I am curious what model of Blackhawk that is. And what is the deal with that refueling probe. Also are there any more pics of this helicopter? I can't find anything that states Iraq is an operator of the Blackhawk. I am trying to get that video to pull up, does it show the helicopter.

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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by voyager1 View Post
    Thanks.

    I am curious what model of Blackhawk that is. And what is the deal with that refueling probe. Also are there any more pics of this helicopter? I can't find anything that states Iraq is an operator of the Blackhawk. I am trying to get that video to pull up, does it show the helicopter.
    I can't help you there...I can't find them either (that Iraq operates Blackhawk's). It would not surprise me (they just started taking delivery of F-16's)...but I cannot confirm it.

    Lockheed Martin delivers first F-16 to Iraqi air force | Business | Dallas Business, Tex...

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    Re: Al Qaeda Militants Capture US-Made Black Hawk Helicopters In Iraq

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    They have a Kiowa??? Good god Iraq is doomed.
    What troubling aspect is not the Kiowa per se. What is really troubling is what it signifies. The helicopters were captured at the airport. Not only are airports more defendable, but many developing countries keep a good number of paramilitary police on site at all times. They can also be reinforced quickly.

    In this case, the Iraqi security forces collapsed so completely that they were not only unable to rally at the airport, but they did not even take easily movable equipment (assuming the helicopters were fylable) with them when they fled.

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