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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if you employ a bartender at your bar, and he allows minors to drink
    the bartender will be in trouble
    but the employer will also be found responsible as the employee acted as an agent on behalf of his employer
    the only way walmart can absolve itself from responsibility would be to show that it knew the driver was without adequate sleep and instructed him not to drive ... and that he then ignored the employer's admonitions
    if walmart cannot do that, then tracy morgan and his entourage are in for a massive payday
    Yes, you are most likely correct. Whoever had the bigger pockets to pay.

    Now in your example. if it was shown that the bartender was instructed by and received training on the law, company policies, etc by the employer that one must not serve minors, then the liability of the employer is reduced, imo.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    He also could have lied to the dispatcher too. We might never know what happened.

    But, you know what? I had a heck of a time locating the partial record for Walmart Transportation.

    I did a search on a local trucking company last month, because one of their trucks ran a red light going the speed limit of 55. I had no problems finding their safety record, none at all.

    That's weird.
    Trucks today have GPS locators on them. If a driver is 5 miles outside where he needs to be, the company knows about it. Even companies like DirecTV, who allow employees to drive their trucks home, have GPS on their vehicles. My dumb ass stepson took his DirecTV truck to the gym and got fired because he was somewhere in the truck he wasn't supposed to be.

    When my daughter goes over her hours even by 5 minutes, her driver leader knows, and she gets popped.

    There's no way to "lie" about anything now, because everything is electronic.
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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    They left out the fact that 80% of the time the commercial driver isn't at fault in car-truck crashes.

    80 percent of car-truck crashes caused by car drivers, ATA report says | Commercial Carrier Journal
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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We'll see what happens with this.
    Congress just ruled recently to change the 34 hour break rules. This will cause them to reconsider and **** it up even worse.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Trucks today have GPS locators on them. If a driver is 5 miles outside where he needs to be, the company knows about it. Even companies like DirecTV, who allow employees to drive their trucks home, have GPS on their vehicles. My dumb ass stepson took his DirecTV truck to the gym and got fired because he was somewhere in the truck he wasn't supposed to be.

    When my daughter goes over her hours even by 5 minutes, her driver leader knows, and she gets popped.

    There's no way to "lie" about anything now, because everything is electronic.
    Not all trucks.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by Superfly View Post
    Trucks today have GPS locators on them. If a driver is 5 miles outside where he needs to be, the company knows about it. Even companies like DirecTV, who allow employees to drive their trucks home, have GPS on their vehicles. My dumb ass stepson took his DirecTV truck to the gym and got fired because he was somewhere in the truck he wasn't supposed to be.

    When my daughter goes over her hours even by 5 minutes, her driver leader knows, and she gets popped.

    There's no way to "lie" about anything now, because everything is electronic.
    Ya but, I knew this dude who drove expedited cargo for Tri-State and once asked him about that GPS gadget they installed on his van, about them tracking his movements, and he pointed to a fuse link and said see that? when I don't want to be tracked, I pull the fuse and just tell them it must be the weather or something.

    not saying this is the case, but something ain't quite right here.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We'll see what happens with this.
    Well yeah, being awake for 24? I haven't done that for a very long time. Back then, dispatchers liked to push drivers into things they weren't capable of doing.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Not all trucks.
    Probably most if not all Walmart trucks.

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Congress just ruled recently to change the 34 hour break rules. This will cause them to reconsider and **** it up even worse.
    Yeah, they keep tinkering because demand for goods and getting it there is so critical. Puts greater pressure on transportation companies and drivers to deliver.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Well yeah, being awake for 24? I haven't done that for a very long time. Back then, dispatchers liked to push drivers into things they weren't capable of doing.
    Of course that's against the law now.
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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    Of course that's against the law now.
    It was unlawful back when I drove too. I sometimes kept 3 log books, we used to call them comic books.

    Got stopped in Alabama once, the trooper ordered me out of the cab and stepped up and grabbed my log book, I'm sort of glad he didn't grab the wrong one, as it was, I was written for not writing in coming out of the sleeper and back on duty. A stupid mistake. But, when I was tired, I would turn down runs and loads, I wasn't their most liked driver at CP America.
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