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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    we have a failure to communicate.

    if the driver in this case acted on his own to break DOT laws, then how would the employer have any responsibility for this accident?
    Well, hypothetically, if the driver was supposedly off the clock, but was not really off, and continued driving, a good dispatcher would probably know where his truck is via GPS tracking. It's too early to tell if that's the case or not, but if the dispatcher checked the GPS data hourly or say every couple of hours, he or she would call the driver and ask him what the hell he thinks he's doing.

    Kind of obvious something happened here that wasn't supposed to happen, but WM could be held partially responsible, because they're supposed to help drivers follow regulations.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by shavingcollywob View Post
    An employee certainly bears some responsibility but I don't know about ultimate responsibility. Certainly not legally.
    The driver's going to jail.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    I can't see Wal-Mart allowing a driver to outlaw his logbook, either.
    Not too sure, but I'm thinking drivers log electronically, so I don't see how that could be fudged or toyed with.

    Don't know if their drivers keep paper logs or not.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Well, hypothetically, if the driver was supposedly off the clock, but was not really off, and continued driving, a good dispatcher would probably know where his truck is via GPS tracking. It's too early to tell if that's the case or not, but if the dispatcher checked the GPS data hourly or say every couple of hours, he or she would call the driver and ask him what the hell he thinks he's doing.

    Kind of obvious something happened here that wasn't supposed to happen, but WM could be held partially responsible, because they're supposed to help drivers follow regulations.
    The driver will be penalised, no matter what.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Not too sure, but I'm thinking drivers log electronically, so I don't see how that could be fudged or toyed with.

    Don't know if their drivers keep paper logs or not.
    Electric logs can't be fudged.

    Drivers using electronic logs are required to keep a paper logbook in case the electronic log goes down.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The driver's going to jail.
    I think you're probably right.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Electric logs can't be fudged.

    Drivers using electronic logs are required to keep a paper logbook in case the electronic log goes down.
    Thanks, I learned something today!

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by tres borrachos View Post
    Someone else should know who is driving on their behalf and how competent the driver is to get behind the wheel of a car. I would say the same thing if an airline was scheduling pilots for flights without knowing the pilots' schedule of the last few weeks.

    I'm not attempting to prove anything. If there was a dispatcher who knew he was driving for 24 hours without a break, it was up to that person to at least try to stop it.
    He also could have lied to the dispatcher too. We might never know what happened.

    But, you know what? I had a heck of a time locating the partial record for Walmart Transportation.

    I did a search on a local trucking company last month, because one of their trucks ran a red light going the speed limit of 55. I had no problems finding their safety record, none at all.

    That's weird.

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by mike2810 View Post
    we have a failure to communicate.

    if the driver in this case acted on his own to break DOT laws, then how would the employer have any responsibility for this accident?
    if you employ a bartender at your bar, and he allows minors to drink
    the bartender will be in trouble
    but the employer will also be found responsible as the employee acted as an agent on behalf of his employer
    the only way walmart can absolve itself from responsibility would be to show that it knew the driver was without adequate sleep and instructed him not to drive ... and that he then ignored the employer's admonitions
    if walmart cannot do that, then tracy morgan and his entourage are in for a massive payday
    we are negotiating about dividing a pizza and in the meantime israel is eating it
    once you're over the hill you begin to pick up speed

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    Re: Prosecutor: Trucker in Tracy Morgan crash hadn't slept

    Quote Originally Posted by justabubba View Post
    if you employ a bartender at your bar, and he allows minors to drink
    the bartender will be in trouble
    but the employer will also be found responsible as the employee acted as an agent on behalf of his employer
    the only way walmart can absolve itself from responsibility would be to show that it knew the driver was without adequate sleep and instructed him not to drive ... and that he then ignored the employer's admonitions
    if walmart cannot do that, then tracy morgan and his entourage are in for a massive payday
    Unless it was a contract truck, then Wal-Mart can put all the blame in the owner of the truck.
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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