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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    His brakes may have failed, or he may have had his head up his ass. "Unsafe equipment' could literally anything from a inoperable marker light to a major brake failure.

    I've never heard of 18 brake assemblies failing at the same time. If it was brakes, his trailer brakes were probably in-op. Most likeky, he didn't check them and didn't know, or he did know and didn't adjust his driving strategy accordingly.

    Most likely, there was a loose nut between the driver's seat and the steering wheel.
    Considering that the accident just happened, the driver most likely did not realize what was happening in front of him till it was too late, and he was probably running too close to the traffic in front of him reducing available reaction time.
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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    yes it is..full trailer brake failure ( all 4 brake positions) is incredibly rare.
    when it does happen, we see all 4 positions lock up..usually due to loss of the air supply.

    loss of braking power to all positions can be caused by only a few things... slack adjusters being manually backed off, loss of service air supply ( which quickly leads to loss of air and a lockup), or the chambers have been manually caged.
    You said in-operable, not a sudden failure. I agree that a sudden failure is almost impossible.
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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

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    71 years old. Unsafe equipment can mean different things, one might be bad brakes.

    Not saying this was the case, but I've never heard of anyone that age driving for a living.

    Plenty of older drivers out there.
    Trucking is a tough industry, the real stars of america drive the trucks that keeps america running. Not over paid athletes, actors and musicians.
    No where near enough respect for our drivers that work up to 14 hours a day and 70 hours a week.
    99% of all goods you buy were shipped by truck.

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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Plenty of older drivers out there.
    Trucking is a tough industry, the real stars of america drive the trucks that keeps america running. Not over paid athletes, actors and musicians.
    No where near enough respect for our drivers that work up to 14 hours a day and 70 hours a week.
    99% of all goods you buy were shipped by truck.
    I know. When I pushed 80,000 pounds, I never got no respect either, much like the kind I get here at DP. I never get no respect.

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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    You said in-operable, not a sudden failure. I agree that a sudden failure is almost impossible.
    Blowing a steer tire would be catastrophic. That could be defined as sudden failure. Safety violations could also include bald or worn tires, yes?

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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Blowing a steer tire would be catastrophic. That could be defined as sudden failure. Safety violations could also include bald or worn tires, yes?
    YES, But lets just be honest here.
    If ANYTHING ON A TRUCK is not in tip top shape they can get that ticket.
    seriously headlight out for a trucker can get that ticket.

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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by AJiveMan View Post
    Blowing a steer tire would be catastrophic. That could be defined as sudden failure. Safety violations could also include bald or worn tires, yes?
    That wouldn't be a sudden brake failure.

    Yes.
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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    YES, But lets just be honest here.
    If ANYTHING ON A TRUCK is not in tip top shape they can get that ticket.
    seriously headlight out for a trucker can get that ticket.
    True. Been there, and done that. Other members were talking about sudden failure. If the Dan Ryan trucker had bald tires, was the company was written up for it, and the accident was caused by that, then it's negligence, yes? in other words, big trouble.

    The toll road worker killed and trooper injured on I-88, the company who the driver worked for had numerous safety violations too, the driver charged with vehicular homicide, and the company's license revoked, and no doubt, insurance company will shell out thousands, if not millions of dollars for stupidity.

    Truck Company Involved In Fatal I-88 Crash Has Spotty Record | NBC Chicago

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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That wouldn't be a sudden brake failure.

    Yes.
    I have seen rubber separate from an inner tire and tear off an air chamber and air hose, so, yes it could.

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    Re: Semi driver cited after Dan Ryan crash

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    That wouldn't be a sudden brake failure.

    Yes.
    If you've ever driven the Dan Ryan during rush hours in a tractor trailer, the driver or operator is normally concerned with running over cars cutting in front of him or her, add to that scanning the sides and behind, add to that multitasking like texting or talkiing on a cell and possibly writing down messages from a cell phone call for next pickup point, distracted driving, I'd believe that most truckers don't monitor their gauges every 10 seconds.

    The Dan Ryan driver might have been distracted, or experienced a medical problem, it's too early to tell.

    But, if there's an air leak left unattended, it can cause the brakes to lock up. I have seen truckers crimp off flexible air hoses with visegrips to stop air leaks.

    Catastrophic failure of brakes is possible if the company neglected to keep them in good repair.
    If brakes lock up, yes, that could be catastrophic.
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