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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Arguments from Authority? Lol. You're kidding right? Do you know what precedent means? It means nothing will happen. Even if it got as far as an impeachment, Republicans would have to seriously distance themselves away from their past support of signing statements. Good luck with that. Oh, and on Turley:

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    Again, try and impeach the president on this. I dare Republicans and even lukewarm Democrats. - Remember the impeachments that were coming over Benghazi? The IRS scandal? Fast & Furious? Where are those? You think the American public will stand behind an impeachment on this? Hahahaha.

    Again we don't need to Impeach to Humiliate and make a Putz look like a Putz. That would include you Precious BO.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Really? Here, I'll make it easier for you: Let's bet a signature and a forum donation that this doesn't get anywhere. Say $100? Loser puts on a pro-DEM/pro-GOP signature?
    No, I'm not betting with you nor will I play this game of wandering goalposts. You have absurdly reduced the events to favor a discounting of what just happened. These weren't "goat herders" that were released. This wasn't your ordinary POW that was bargained for.

    The American public isn't buying it now, but who knows, they may swallow the tripe coming from your echo chamber. In any event, we're talking democrats here and a lame duck POTUS, it's very likely another scandal will be along soon to make folks forget about this. Look for a wag the dog around election time.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Arguments from Authority? Lol. You're kidding right? Do you know what precedent means? It means nothing will happen. Even if it got as far as an impeachment, Republicans would have to seriously distance themselves away from their past support of signing statements. Good luck with that. Oh, and on Turley:

    Jonathan Turley - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia



    Again, try and impeach the president on this. I dare Republicans and even lukewarm Democrats. - Remember the impeachments that were coming over Benghazi? The IRS scandal? Fast & Furious? Where are those? You think the American public will stand behind an impeachment on this? Hahahaha.
    Do you think the majority of American people confronted with one lie after another exposed of this administration will be so quick to vote Democrat in the next election? I don't think so. I don't hear anyone in Congress shouting out impeachment, and that is what counts as they do handle that aspect. But I do hear both Democrats and Republicans associated with National Security livid and at the very least disturbed over what Obama and his administration have done. So your garbage has nowhere to go except into a green Glad bag to contain it and off to the landfill it goes. Cheers.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Him being promoted twice is what I can't figure out. that is something else that seems rather stupid especially when the military knew he walked away from his post.
    Thing that kills me.....is they will always throw Gadhafi name or Saddam's up over how Bad they were. Yet these guys make them look like beginners.


    And in Kabul Monday, the Afghan Foreign Ministry called the swap "against the norms of international law" if it came against the five imprisoned Taliban detainees' will. The ministry said: "No state can transfer another country's citizen to a third country and put restriction on their freedom."

    The five detainees left Guantanamo aboard a U.S. military aircraft flying to Qatar, which served as go-between in the negotiations. They are to be banned from leaving Qatar for at least a year. Among the five: a Taliban deputy intelligence minister, a former Taliban interior minister with ties to the late al-Qaida leader Osama bin Laden and a figure linked by human rights monitors to mass killings of Shiite Muslims in Afghanistan in 2000 and 2001.....snip~

    U.S. concluded in 2010 that Bergdahl walked away

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    No, I'm not betting with you nor will I play this game of wandering goalposts. You have absurdly reduced the events to favor a discounting of what just happened. These weren't "goat herders" that were released. This wasn't your ordinary POW that was bargained for.

    The American public isn't buying it now, but who knows, they may swallow the tripe coming from your echo chamber. In any event, we're talking democrats here and a lame duck POTUS, it's very likely another scandal will be along soon to make folks forget about this. Look for a wag the dog around election time.

    Heya CB its his Peace talks with the Taliban.....look I put this up back in Feb around here.


    U.S. seeks prisoner swap with Taliban to free Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl.....


    In an effort to free American captive Bowe Bergdahl before the bulk of U.S. forces leave Afghanistan this year, the Obama administration has decided to try to resume talks with the Taliban and sweeten an offer to trade Taliban prisoners held at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, for the Army sergeant, current and former officials said.

    To refresh the American offer, which has been on the table for more than two years, senior officials from the White House, the Pentagon, the State Department and other agencies decided within the past month to allow the simultaneous release of all five men. Taliban representatives had objected to the previous plan to release the prisoners by ones or twos as a test of Taliban and Qatari intermediaries’ ability to make sure the men did not return to militancy.

    Two people familiar with the decision stressed that it was the Taliban that broke off negotiations nearly two years ago and that the U.S. door to talks has been open since. The renewed offer has not been formally made, and no State Department or other officials have immediate plans to travel to Doha, Qatar, where any contact facilitated by the Qatari government would take place.

    The mid-January decision by officials at the level of deputy secretary would confine any new talks to the prisoner issue. Negotiations would not attempt wider engagement with the Taliban on a host of issues related to the future of Afghanistan. U.S. officials had once hoped to use the prisoner exchange as a means to build confidence for those larger discussions, which would also have involved the Afghan government. Now, the United States is primarily focused on getting Bergdahl home.

    Bergdahl, an Army infantryman assigned to a unit from Alaska, was taken captive after walking off his base in the eastern province of Paktika, a decision that confounded his comrades and commanders in Afghanistan. The U.S. military launched a massive manhunt, fearing it would be nearly impossible to find him if his captors smuggled him into Pakistan. The Taliban soon took credit for capturing him and offered to release him in exchange for $1 million and 21 Afghan prisoners.

    The Taliban broke off talks before they ever really began in 2012, and an effort to resurrect negotiations between the Taliban and the Afghan government last year ended in an embarrassing shambles. A political office promised to the Taliban was readied in Doha but closed two days after it opened in June amid a row over the raising of a flag the Taliban used when it ruled Afghanistan prior to the 2001 U.S. invasion.

    Taliban representatives remain in Doha, and the office is a de facto political headquarters.....snip~

    U.S. seeks prisoner swap with Taliban to free Army Sgt. Bowe Bergdahl - The Washington Post
    Feb 17, 2014 <<<<< !

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    Now the Taliban Leader BO and his Team had working with them.....has come up missing in Qatar. His family his extremely worried since. The rest of the Taliban considered him a traitor.

    Oh and BTW today Qatar stated these 5 were not Prisoners of Qatar.....They are Guests!
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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Do you think the majority of American people confronted with one lie after another exposed of this administration will be so quick to vote Democrat in the next election? I don't think so. I don't hear anyone in Congress shouting out impeachment, and that is what counts as they do handle that aspect. But I do hear both Democrats and Republicans associated with National Security livid and at the very least disturbed over what Obama and his administration have done. So your garbage has nowhere to go except into a green Glad bag to contain it and off to the landfill it goes. Cheers.
    A total of 2 presidents have been impeached in our 200+ year history. The odds are forever in my favor. This is how it will go down:

    Republicans will make noise. Republicans won't grow the balls to do anything about it. Obama will end his presidency in 2016, and Republicans will find something else to complain when the next POTUS is a Democrat. End of story.
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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Him being promoted twice is what I can't figure out. that is something else that seems rather stupid especially when the military knew he walked away from his post.
    Pero, I have a couple of questions. 1) Will the men who came forward, in spite of signing a Non-Disclosure document, be in some kind of trouble for doing so? It would be vey unfair to expect them to remain silent when they know the truth is not being told. 2) most people agree that promoting a suspected deserter does not make sense - is promoting people based on time in service and nothing else? 3) why was his file marked "classified? Is this routine when someone is AWOL?

    There are a lot of strange things going on here, and this all seems to have happened in the past six years since Obama has been POTUS. Could this tie in with the "Arab Spring" movement in the ME? Was Bergdahl thinking he could help somehow? There is more to this than we are being told - and I guess we'll have to wait to find out. In the meantime, he'll be with his family in the US, so that much is good. He can't be blamed for the terms of the swap.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Breaking news over the Radio WBBM FM CBS radio 870AM.....Dick Durbin says they had to do this to save Bergdahl due to his health.

    Can someone call Dick and let him know fast forward to June 4th 2014.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Then Humiliation before the Press and in Public.....is all that's left and coming, non-stop, until his pasture time arrives.
    At the very least, Obama should be grounded and lose his basketball until his grades improve.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by jimbo View Post
    At the very least, Obama should be grounded and lose his basketball until his grades improve.
    I would take away all his free memberships to the most luxurious Golf Courses around the Country.

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