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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hey guys, I'll make you the same bet I've made everyone else when it comes to Obama and every so-called "scandal" that Republicans come up with like: F&F, Benghazi, ObamaCare website and the IRS thing - if you got something to impeach on? Bring it. Let's see if the Senate convicts given the precedent established by GWB.
    Not every scandal rises to the level of impeachment. Bad judgement or just plain idiocy isn't the standard. You have nothing to bet with in the first place.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Hey guys, I'll make you the same bet I've made everyone else when it comes to Obama and every so-called "scandal" that Republicans come up with like: F&F, Benghazi, ObamaCare website and the IRS thing - if you got something to impeach on? Bring it. Let's see if the Senate convicts given the precedent established by GWB.
    What did Bush do ?

    And demanding answers doesn't disqualify the existence of a scandal.

    This scandal has pissed off Democrats too and it should.

    Impeachment or not, this is exposing Obama as the lying incompetent that Conservatives have always contended he was.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    From what I read MMC, it is mixed feelings on a lot of this. I think one has to give it a few more days and let this thing settle down.
    I don't know who you are listening to Pero.....many are turning on BO over this.....even in Poland, and including the MS Media. BO stated again about Bergdahls Health trying to cover for Susan Rice who has been eating some good face time again.....for the second time round.

    Problem here is.....other Countries have the Taliban listed down as terrorists. You don't think BO can get around that fact and Other Countries Intel Services. Do you?

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    Have it your way.
    You don't think he knows about Politics do ya? Nor anything Military or Intel Like, do ya.....Cmon!

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    BO thinks he covered his bases......he whiffed.


    The prisoner swap has stoked anger in Afghanistan, where many view the deal as a further sign of a U.S. desire to disengage from Afghanistan as quickly as possible. Washington has mapped out a plan to fully withdraw all of its troops by the end of 2016.

    "No government cant transfer citizens of a country to a third country as prisoners," the Afghan Foreign Affairs Ministry said in a statement issued late on Sunday.

    Afghan President Hamid Karzai, who was excluded from the deal to avoid leaks according to the U.S. government, has not commented on the prisoner swap, although the foreign ministry statement was emailed from his media office.

    Senior officials at the Afghan intelligence agency say they believe the men will return to the battlefield and bolster the insurgency just as most foreign combat troops prepare to exit by the end of this year.

    All five prisoners were classed as "high-risk" and "likely to pose a threat" by the Pentagon and held senior positions in the Taliban regime before it was topped by a U.S. led coalition in 2001.

    At least two of them are suspected of committing war-crimes, including the murder of thousands of Afghan Shi'ites, according to leaked U.S. military cables.

    "That's been documented. So it's disturbing to me that the Taliban are the ones that named the people to be released." he said on CBS’s “Face the Nation.”.....snip~

    https://ph.news.yahoo.com/afghan-gov...074155266.html

    http://www.debatepolitics.com/us-par...oke-law-3.html


    First off......the Taliban are not the ruling Governmental Authority in Afghanistan. They just had elections a couple months ago to say so. Bo just put together this deal from last month. As the deal was dead in Feb of this year.

    Which BO knew the Haqqani Network had Bergdahl.
    And we further suspect that the five terrorists that were released will of course remain where they are, and not travel anywhere. Their cohorts are just going to have to wait a year to see them. Got it! No problem!

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    To Republicans & Conservatives: Good luck convincing the American public that bringing an American home was a bad decision.
    The Vets who served honorably with Bergdahl who have come forth with their testimonies of what really happened has left this administration running for cover. As long as investigative reporters continue to do their job it will continue to be a problem for this administration. As people find out that 5 American killers of innocent civilians were swapped for an American deserter this administration tried to depict as a man who served honorably, more and more people will become outraged. This goes beyond partisan ideology. This goes to the lack of National Security currently on display in this administration. This goes to the willingness of this administration to break the law for political gain. They thought by releasing Bergdahl it would bring fanfare. Instead, it was met with Vets who know what really happened coming forth at the risk of violating a gag order to tell the American people the truth. This administration while trying to use Bergdahl's health as an excuse to break laws in order to recover Bergdahl was blown out of the water when the Taliban produced to NBC full coverage of the exchange and Bergdahl and very much looked to be in very good health. So sit and spin if you like, the majority can smell the rat.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not every scandal rises to the level of impeachment. Bad judgement or just plain idiocy isn't the standard. You have nothing to bet with in the first place.
    Heya CB. Does BO need to be impeached to be Censured or to be Called before Congress and Chastized?

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    What did Bush do ?
    Well, let's start with the whole "signing statements" debacle:

    Presidential Signing Statements Research Guide — Georgetown Law

    U.S. Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia disagreed with his fellow justices' disregard of a signing statement related to the Detainee Treatment Act, Pub. L. No. 109-148, 1005-1006, 119 Stat. 2736 (2005). Hamdan v. Rumsfeld, 548 U.S. 557 (2006) (Scalia dissenting). In March 2009, President Obama issued a memo to the heads of executive departments and agencies in which he opined "In appropriately limited circumstances, [presidential signing statements] represent an exercise of the President's constitutional obligation to take care that the laws be faithfully executed, and they promote a healthy dialogue between the executive branch and the Congress."
    When Democrats tried to create laws against their use? Not a single Republican cared enough to support the bill. If the problem is that Obama "broke the law" by using signing statements to circumvent the law, Republicans are going to have to try and explain away why they were in favor of this BEFORE Obama became president. They've already been in support of this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Detainee Treatment Act of 2005
    "The executive branch shall construe Title X in Division A of the Act, relating to detainees, in a manner consistent with the constitutional authority of the President to supervise the unitary executive branch and as Commander in Chief and consistent with the constitutional limitations on the judicial power, which will assist in achieving the shared objective of the Congress and the President, evidenced in Title X, of protecting the American people from further terrorist attacks."
    It's simple and Bush set the standard, the president can do what he feels is necessary within his constitutional power when interpreting the law. None of this was even questionable by Republicans before 2008. Now they're against it? Tough ****. Obama brought an American home and sent a few goat herders to be disappeared in Qatar. Win-win.
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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I don't know who you are listening to Pero.....many are turning on BO over this.....even in Poland, and including the MS Media. BO stated again about Bergdahls Health trying to cover for Susan Rice who has been eating some good face time again.....for the second time round.

    Problem here is.....other Countries have the Taliban listed down as terrorists. You don't think BO can get around that fact and Other Countries Intel Services. Do you?
    I don't MMC, I think it was a stupid thing to do especially in not notifying the present Afghan government. After all it is them that will probably have to fight these five and more just to survive. The possibility exists that other countries will stop aiding in our hunt for terrorists which could include providing intel data. But I have been more focused on the home front than overseas.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    The Vets who served honorably with Bergdahl who have come forth with their testimonies of what really happened has left this administration running for cover. As long as investigative reporters continue to do their job it will continue to be a problem for this administration. As people find out that 5 American killers of innocent civilians were swapped for an American deserter this administration tried to depict as a man who served honorably, more and more people will become outraged. This goes beyond partisan ideology. This goes to the lack of National Security currently on display in this administration. This goes to the willingness of this administration to break the law for political gain. They thought by releasing Bergdahl it would bring fanfare. Instead, it was met with Vets who know what really happened coming forth at the risk of violating a gag order to tell the American people the truth. This administration while trying to use Bergdahl's health as an excuse to break laws in order to recover Bergdahl was blown out of the water when the Taliban produced to NBC full coverage of the exchange and Bergdahl and very much looked to be in very good health. So sit and spin if you like, the majority can smell the rat.
    I refuse to accept the view that mankind is so tragically bound to the starless midnight of racism and war that the bright daybreak of peace and brotherhood can never become a reality. - MLK

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