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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    I do not know Pol, they could be but probably not after Bergdahl was released. It all depends on the wording of the nondisclosure documents. As for the promotions, it may be the army’s policy to promote POW’s automatically, I do not know the answer to that. But usually one has to go before a board, be recommended, plus a few other things. As far as his file being classified, the military or the army in this case didn’t want the public to know what is in it, you probably can include the news organizations and of course those who had him. No it is not routine. Most personal files are marked FOUO or whatever they call it these days, that is for official use only. Another protective marking is sensitive but unclassified which might be what I was thinking about. There is also a restricted file in ones 201 or military records. Where only certain people are authorized to view that portion. There can be classified 201 files and unclas 201 files or portions. It all depends on what the soldier was involved in. But in Bergdahl's case, it is my understanding he wasn't involved in anything that would warrant the classification of his 201 file. So not wanting the media, the public, his captures etc. is probably why it was.

    Yes, like you I agree there has to be a whole lot more we aren’t being told about this. So much of it makes no sense unless his release and swap is a small step in something much larger that we do not know anything about yet. There are tons of things it could be, yet they are all pure speculation and as such isn’t worth much.

    It has to do with those Plans.....don't forget we have no people In Qatar. So there is now, no Talking with the Taliban. We have our only prisoner back and they have 3 of their Leaders back.


    Afghanistan confirms Taliban dissident leader goes missing in UAE.....



    Afghanistan on Monday officially confirmed that a senior Taliban leader, Mullah Agha Jan Mutasim, who had started dialogue with Kabul-backed negotiators in Dubai, has been missing in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). After a mysterious silence for nearly two weeks, the Afghan Foreign Ministry on Monday confirmed that Mutasim is missing. “The Afghan government confirms that Agha Jan Mutasim has disappeared in the UAE and we are talking to UAE senior officials to determine his fate,” the Afghan Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Ahmed Shakaib Mustaghni said in Kabul.

    “The talks, unfortunately, have not yet produced any results and we do not have any more details,” Mustaghni told his weekly press briefing, according to the recorded version of the briefing received here.

    Mutasim’s family and friends had confirmed to The Express Tribune last week that they had lost contact with him in Dubai for ten days. They were concerned that the UAE authorities had detained and shifted him to an unknown location in Abu Dhabi.

    Mutasim, a former Taliban cabinet minister and close aide to the Taliban chief, Mullah Muhammad Omar, had launched his alternate peace movement. And contrary to the Taliban policy, held talks with Karzai’s negotiators. After their first meeting, they had agreed to hold more talks to push the peace process.

    Sources close to Agha Jan had told The Express Tribune that he had been working on a plan to convene a big conference of religious scholars.

    Mutasim’s move was seen a major embarrassment for the Taliban as he was thought to be the first senior leader to have openly started talks with Karzai’s government.....snip~

    Afghanistan confirms Taliban dissident leader goes missing in UAE – The Express Tribune
    Published: April 14, 2014 <<<<< !!!!!

    Which here it even Confirms Karzai was to step down April 5th. So he did......and the Afghans have a New President. The Talks with the Taliban now.....are dead!
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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    But no one is talking impeachment in Congress at this time.
    Color me surprised. I'm shocked I tells ya! Republicans using this as a political needle and nothing else? Well! I for one am shocked. It's not like there have been half a dozen other "scandals" they've done nothing about. How is the F&F investigation coming? I'm sure it's yielding results. And... Benghazi? 2 years later and nothing? Oh... well, what about the IRS "scandal"? Nada? Zilch? Zero? Oh my! Wait... how is the investigation into the ObamaCare website going? Oh... right. Nothing. Wait... how is that citizenship investigation the Republicans were supposed to be doing from like... 6 years ago? Okay. Alright so what do we have? A Republican House that has managed to do absolutely nothing and get even fewer results is just a paper tiger. Wait... how is the NSA leak that was supposed to get Holder/Obama impeached? Lolz. Toothless threats for everyone!
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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Color me surprised. I'm shocked I tells ya! Republicans using this as a political needle and nothing else? Well! I for one am shocked. It's not like there have been half a dozen other "scandals" they've done nothing about. How is the F&F investigation coming? I'm sure it's yielding results. And... Benghazi? 2 years later and nothing? Oh... well, what about the IRS "scandal"? Nada? Zilch? Zero? Oh my!
    Oh my, what.....you can't figure it out. The MS Media isn't going for the Okie Doke anymore. You don't know how Political juice runs out.....after the Demos lose the Senate. Which is only a short matter of time, then.....

    You just Keep that wish on Hillary to save your dreams and hopes.

    Why don't you ask those taking Gowdys Depositons after they testify to that deposition.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    It has to do with those Plans.....don't forget we have no people In Qatar. So there is now, no Talking with the Taliban. We have our only prisoner back and they have 3 of their Leaders back.


    Afghanistan confirms Taliban dissident leader goes missing in UAE.....



    Afghanistan on Monday officially confirmed that a senior Taliban leader, Mullah Agha Jan Mutasim, who had started dialogue with Kabul-backed negotiators in Dubai, has been missing in the United Arab Emirates (UAE). After a mysterious silence for nearly two weeks, the Afghan Foreign Ministry on Monday confirmed that Mutasim is missing. “The Afghan government confirms that Agha Jan Mutasim has disappeared in the UAE and we are talking to UAE senior officials to determine his fate,” the Afghan Foreign Ministry spokesperson, Ahmed Shakaib Mustaghni said in Kabul.

    “The talks, unfortunately, have not yet produced any results and we do not have any more details,” Mustaghni told his weekly press briefing, according to the recorded version of the briefing received here.

    Mutasim’s family and friends had confirmed to The Express Tribune last week that they had lost contact with him in Dubai for ten days. They were concerned that the UAE authorities had detained and shifted him to an unknown location in Abu Dhabi.

    Mutasim, a former Taliban cabinet minister and close aide to the Taliban chief, Mullah Muhammad Omar, had launched his alternate peace movement. And contrary to the Taliban policy, held talks with Karzai’s negotiators. After their first meeting, they had agreed to hold more talks to push the peace process.

    Sources close to Agha Jan had told The Express Tribune that he had been working on a plan to convene a big conference of religious scholars.

    Mutasim’s move was seen a major embarrassment for the Taliban as he was thought to be the first senior leader to have openly started talks with Karzai’s government.....snip~

    Afghanistan confirms Taliban dissident leader goes missing in UAE – The Express Tribune
    Published: April 14, 2014 <<<<< !!!!!

    Which here it even Confirms Karzai was to step down April 5th. So he did......and the Afghans have a New President. The Talks with the Taliban now.....are dead!
    We still have some troops in Qatar or Cutter as it is known.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We still have some troops in Qatar or Cutter as it is known.
    Yeah.....and will they negotiate with the Taliban, who refuses to Negotiate even after they got their people back.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Oh my, what.....you can't figure it out. The MS Media isn't going for the Okie Doke anymore.
    The media is irrelevant. If the media was the deciding factor in all of this, I've got some oceanfront property in Iowa I'd like you to check out. Seriously, 6 years of supposed "scandals", I could drag up countless links from the "media" reporting on them all - and what would it do politically? Nothing. If Republicans needed the "media" to be on their side to carry out investigations and hand out sanctions they're even weaker than I thought. You don't need the media to start impeachment hearings
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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Yeah.....and will they negotiate with the Taliban, who refuses to Negotiate even after they got their people back.
    I am not privy to negations, only to the troops.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The media is irrelevant. If the media was the deciding factor in all of this, I've got some oceanfront property in Iowa I'd like you to check out. Seriously, 6 years of supposed "scandals", I could drag up countless links from the "media" reporting on them all - and what would it do politically? Nothing. If Republicans needed the "media" to be on their side to carry out investigations and hand out sanctions they're even weaker than I thought. You don't need the media to start impeachment hearings
    Yeah and the Media didn't have anything to do with Nixon.....tell you what. You can't sell what you don't own and never to a player.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Damn! Why didn't Nixon think this?...lol!
    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: White House apologizes to lawmakers over secret POW Swap.....

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Color me surprised. I'm shocked I tells ya! Republicans using this as a political needle and nothing else? Well! I for one am shocked. It's not like there have been half a dozen other "scandals" they've done nothing about. How is the F&F investigation coming? I'm sure it's yielding results. And... Benghazi? 2 years later and nothing? Oh... well, what about the IRS "scandal"? Nada? Zilch? Zero? Oh my!
    Fast and Furious investigation led to Eric Holder's office. The House concluded Eric Holder was guilty. The Democrat Senate refused to take up the matter.
    Benghazi has now gone to special committee due to the efforts outside Congress by Judicial Watch through court filings were allowed to obtain the documents not heavily redacted that this administration provided Congress and other documents that this administration failed to turn over.
    IRS scandal is in full swing, The smoking gun in the IRS targeting scandal could be found in the Senate, one advocacy group says, pointing out a correspondence it believes pressured the tax agency to impose extra scrutiny on conservative groups as part of a Democratic election strategy in 2010 and 2012. Several senators could be in ethics trouble Over the IRS Scandal................The Center for Competitive Politics, which opposes campaign finance restrictions and other limits on political speech, filed a complaint with the Senate Select Committee on Ethics against nine Democratic senators, most notably Assistant Majority Leader Dick Durbin of Illinois and Carl Levin of Michigan, for repeated lobbying of the IRS to probe conservative groups. It also specifically cites Charles Schumer of New York, who was the lead author of letters to the IRS signed by Jeanne Shaheen of New Hampshire, Tom Udall of New Mexico, Sheldon Whitehouse of Rhode Island, Al Franken of Minnesota, Michael Bennet of Colorado and Jeff Merkley of Oregon.

    Unfortunately another scandal isn't what the Americans need but the Democrats keep providing them as in the VA. While this recent Bergdahl scandal, the new VA scandal is getting stronger by the day with more and more reports of mismanagement.

    You see the wheels of justice grind slowly. And none of them are over as some would hope. The fat lady is far from singing in any of them. And if the Senate goes to Republicans this year in mid-terms more co-operation in getting to the truth in any of them will become a reality as the Democrat Senate has played a big role in thwarting such.

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