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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    The F-22 lacks ground attack capabilities so not really.
    I see, well in that case they could use them defending there new territory from US/Israeli/Syrian air attacks I suppose. Or perhaps they will shoot down commercial airliners invading their newly claimed air space. Somehow I frown on arming IS beyond what we already have, I'm certain more innocents will be harmed.
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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Yeah?.....but more innocent people will be hurt.
    So... what?? They are cleaning the gene pool, just as God intends. Why we be against that? We should be helpful and help them and provide quality weapons systems at confiscatory prices.
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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You disagree that ISIS (IS now) would cause more damage if they have Raptors??
    That's the point of selling them Raptors. And then selling the Anti ISIS forces Raptors. Drain em both dry of their piggy banks, cookie jars, bank accounts and sofa change. Take it all.
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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    I see, well in that case they could use them defending there new territory from US/Israeli/Syrian air attacks I suppose. Or perhaps they will shoot down commercial airliners invading their newly claimed air space. Somehow I frown on arming IS beyond what we already have, I'm certain more innocents will be harmed.
    Why so glum chum? They are only just cleaning out their gene pool. They should be much more thorough cleaning it out in my opinion.
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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    So... what?? They are cleaning the gene pool, just as God intends. Why we be against that? We should be helpful and help them and provide quality weapons systems at confiscatory prices.
    Oh ok, we'll you go ahead and promote that, I'm not comfortable with it.
    Killing one person is murder, killing 100,000 is foreign policy

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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    You disagree that ISIS (IS now) would cause more damage if they have Raptors??
    I think that people are going to kill other people, and all we're discussing is capacity. So long as it's not really a threat to ourselves, granting one group a greater capacity to murder is ultimately beneficial. For all. Increase their capacity to such an extent, for both sides (for a price), that the idea of engaging in it loses viability.

    And no, an F16 isn't going to increase their ability to deal more damage than what they already have, really.

    What's more dangerous, a guy making passes in a jet that requires fuel, munitions, training, a runway, and an infrastructure of satellites and radar to be TRULY effective...

    Or a group of committed zealots with high explosives?


    I'll take my chances with that "blind" F16, thanks.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I think that people are going to kill other people, and all we're discussing is capacity. So long as it's not really a threat to ourselves, granting one group a greater capacity to murder is ultimately beneficial. For all. Increase their capacity to such an extent, for both sides (for a price), that the idea of engaging in it loses viability.

    And no, an F16 isn't going to increase their ability to deal more damage than what they already have, really.

    What's more dangerous, a guy making passes in a jet that requires fuel, munitions, training, a runway, and an infrastructure of satellites and radar to be TRULY effective...

    Or a group of committed zealots with high explosives?


    I'll take my chances with that "blind" F16, thanks.

    Uhm, look up the US Air Forces CBU-97 Bomb.

    Free fall Cluster bomb that dispenses 40 spinning hockey puck like " skeets " .

    Each " Skeet " uses infrared targeting and can on its own scan up to a 1500 foot area.

    Once targets are acquired the skeet attaches itself to the target ( Tanks Armor personnel vehicles, jeeps, buildings, etc ) and then detonates sending superheated molten Copper into and THROUGH ANY ARMOR thats been developed by Man.

    Once through the armor the superheated copper burns through munitions and well......BOOM !

    There is no hiding from that weapon, no safe place no where to run.

    Technology is amazing.

    Oh, I'm not saying we're supplying this to anyone, but its a dumb bomb until the little spinning hockey pucks of death are unleashed.

    And then its certain death for anyone on the ground.
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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I think that people are going to kill other people, and all we're discussing is capacity. So long as it's not really a threat to ourselves, granting one group a greater capacity to murder is ultimately beneficial. For all. Increase their capacity to such an extent, for both sides (for a price), that the idea of engaging in it loses viability.

    And no, an F16 isn't going to increase their ability to deal more damage than what they already have, really.

    What's more dangerous, a guy making passes in a jet that requires fuel, munitions, training, a runway, and an infrastructure of satellites and radar to be TRULY effective...

    Or a group of committed zealots with high explosives?


    I'll take my chances with that "blind" F16, thanks.
    Ok, so you favor arming IS with F-16 too!
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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Montecresto View Post
    Ok, so you favor arming IS with F-16 too!
    Of course. Having them spend their 2+ billion on F16s makes the US much safer than having them buying up explosives, chemical weapons, or even nukes. Help them spend their war chest on something that LOOKS impressive but ultimately won't help them much.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Lockheed to deliver first of 36 F-16s to Iraq this week

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Uhm, look up the US Air Forces CBU-97 Bomb.

    Free fall Cluster bomb that dispenses 40 spinning hockey puck like " skeets " .

    Each " Skeet " uses infrared targeting and can on its own scan up to a 1500 foot area.

    Once targets are acquired the skeet attaches itself to the target ( Tanks Armor personnel vehicles, jeeps, buildings, etc ) and then detonates sending superheated molten Copper into and THROUGH ANY ARMOR thats been developed by Man.

    Once through the armor the superheated copper burns through munitions and well......BOOM !

    There is no hiding from that weapon, no safe place no where to run.

    Technology is amazing.

    Oh, I'm not saying we're supplying this to anyone, but its a dumb bomb until the little spinning hockey pucks of death are unleashed.

    And then its certain death for anyone on the ground.
    And the day we sell anyone in the Mid East that, or anything else similar, or crates of grenades/RPGs/ etc...



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    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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