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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The problem is that if a bill is vetoed because one portion is believed to be unconstitutional means vetoing perhaps hundreds of other parts of the bill that the President believes to be Constitutional. Every President since Carter has pointed out (often through signing statements) portions of bills they signed but disagreed with on Constitutional grounds and would not enforce. Bush 43 did that something like 160 times, about twice the average of his peers.
    this is why they should make every law a single law and not tag crap on.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

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    this is why they should make every law a single law and not tag crap on.
    I will agree with that.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Exactly. The President is going to veto the Defense Authorization because of one provision he finds unconstitutional. Imagine what would happen if he actually did.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

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    Of course you do.
    Stay tuned

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Exactly. The President is going to veto the Defense Authorization because of one provision he finds unconstitutional. Imagine what would happen if he actually did.
    Was this law ruled unconstitutional? Or are we now granting to the executive branch judicial authority?

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Yes, but as executor of law, he has the option to implement parts at his discretion. Especially if he points out in a signing statement what he opposes.
    I'm sorry but this president has taken such liberties in what law he will execute and uphold and what laws he will not. He certainly hasn't fulfilled his oath to defend and uphold the Constitution. Just last month Obama signed Ted Cruz's bill that would bar an Iranian diplomat from entering the United States, but immediately issued a statement saying he won't enforce it. What kind of happy horse crap is that? You can't cherry pick, dissect laws to your liking and disregard the rest. This is an abuse of power. Especially if the one signing the bills is doing such!
    Obama signs Ted Cruz bill into law, but says he won't enforce it | WashingtonExaminer.com

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Stay tuned
    There were real fringe nutters on the left who convinced themselves that Bush was going to do the same thing. And they were hilariously wrong, just like you will be.
    Freedom of speech is not freedom from criticism.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Was this law ruled unconstitutional? Or are we now granting to the executive branch judicial authority?
    Hmmm....did you perhaps the post where I stated that the President probably has a Constitutional duty to not enforce laws he believes to be unconstitutional?
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    The problem is that if a bill is vetoed because one portion is believed to be unconstitutional means vetoing perhaps hundreds of other parts of the bill that the President believes to be Constitutional. Every President since Carter has pointed out (often through signing statements) portions of bills they signed but disagreed with on Constitutional grounds and would not enforce. Bush 43 did that something like 160 times, about twice the average of his peers.
    I don't care how many presidents have done it, the Constitution gives the executive branch the power to veto anything he sees unconstitutional. You know the founders set up our government purposely so it wouldn't be easy to change laws. Now some are saying like you "well Carter did it" "Bush did it" bottom line it was never intended for the executive to cherry pick what he liked and ignore the rest after he signed a bill into law PERIOD.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I'm sorry but this president has taken such liberties in what law he will execute and uphold and what laws he will not. He certainly hasn't fulfilled his oath to defend and uphold the Constitution. Just last month Obama signed Ted Cruz's bill that would bar an Iranian diplomat from entering the United States, but immediately issued a statement saying he won't enforce it. What kind of happy horse crap is that? You can't cherry pick, dissect laws to your liking and disregard the rest. This is an abuse of power. Especially if the one signing the bills is doing such!
    Obama signs Ted Cruz bill into law, but says he won't enforce it | WashingtonExaminer.com
    This president isn't as bad as his predecessor was. Are you similarly critical of him?

    edit: withdrawn. you answered.
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