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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Please define 'illegal law' and post links.
    If what I understand to be going on is correct, it is illegal because congress cannot pass a law that limits executive power.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Name for me the democrat senators that will vote for impeachment. In fact, name one.
    Guess we wait till after the 2014 election then, the dems will lose the senate come 2014

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Guess we wait till after the 2014 election then, the dems will lose the senate come 2014
    Maybe, maybe not.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Jerry View Post
    I'm not a legal schoaler, but I play one on the internet

    A "legal law" is Title Code which is congruent with the letter and intent of the Constitution, like the Civil Rights Act, as opposed to Title Code which is contradictory to the letter and intent of the Constitution, such as The Patriot Act.
    I can tell that you are not a legal scholar. The person who disobeys an 'illegal law' still has to face the music in the courtroom and the case has to work its way up to the highest court for the law to be declared 'illegal.' And while that happens, the disobedient person has to sit in jail while the process moves forward. You don't just decide a law is illegal and not obey it unless you want to end up in the clink before the decision is reached by the SCOTUS that the law is illegal.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Not to side with Obama, but there are plenty of legitimate things he has done wrong. This is not one of them. He is not bound to illegal laws passed by congress, and this is an executive decision.
    You do realize how laws are passed in this country or is this sarcasm you speak? Is it an illegal law if he signed it into law? obvious you did not read the link provided or the original post. Said right in my post he signed the law into law one year ago.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Maybe, maybe not.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Perhaps you don't read enough:



    Bowe Bergdahl, America’s Only Prisoner Of War, Released - TIME


    No doubt you have issue with the source.

    BTW: You have not defined 'illegal laws.'
    Perhaps you don't realize I am not arguing for or against such points. Only that Obama can exercise his executive rights as president.

    Again, I do not agree with his actions. I only say it is his right.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Who would you recommend that people vote for who could get elected by way of, say, write ins?
    Third party. Republocrats run off of a very tight 50/50 split of the voting populace. A third party doesn't need to even win, it just needs to capture enough votes to ensure a particular branch of the Republocrats cannot win. If they fear losing their power, they will change.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Perhaps you don't realize I am not arguing for or against such points. Only that Obama can exercise his executive rights as president.

    Again, I do not agree with his actions. I only say it is his right.

    He does not have any executive rights to break the laws that he signed into law.
    Or any other laws...... But heck he breaks those also guess i should not be surprised.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    If what I understand to be going on is correct, it is illegal because congress cannot pass a law that limits executive power.
    You might want to reread that Constitution. The 3 branches of government are not exclusive unto themselves, there is intentional overlap of all three. If there were not some overlap, then the government would be gridlocked 100% of the time.

    While separation of powers is key to the workings of American government, no democratic system exists with an absolute separation of powers or an absolute lack of separation of powers. Governmental powers and responsibilities intentionally overlap; they are too complex and interrelated to be neatly compartmentalized. As a result, there is an inherent measure of competition and conflict among the branches of government. Throughout American history, there also has been an ebb and flow of preeminence among the governmental branches. Such experiences suggest that where power resides is part of an evolutionary process.
    Separation of Powers--An Overview

    And Congress and the Judiciary most assuredly do limit presidential power:

    How do Congress and the judiciary limit presidential power? - Curiosity

    There certainly are limits to presidential power. If a president makes an agreement with Congress, signs that agreement into law, and then refuses to go by the agreement he signed into law, then there is a problem. Perhaps it is more of a stupidity problem than a legal problem, but there is a problem. Since Obama has been in office, I have become convinced that Harvard sells mail order law degrees.
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