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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    States rights. Obama steps all over the 10th.
    I'm not equipped to argue this point, but these guys are:

    The ACA and the Tenth Amendment : SCOTUSblog

    I find it hard to believe the GOP would turn so venomously against ideas generated from their own party, and I have rarely seen the 10th Amendment even raised as an argument against the ACA.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I see you do not understand the constitution. Look up separation of powers.


    Good or bad trade, I think it is worse that now they will look for taking more Americans as hostages/prisoners. The president has acknowledged he will barter with terrorists.

    Please notice, I never said it was a good trade. I only said it was within his rights as president.
    I understand the laws as they currently stand and any partition of a prisoner's release must go before Congress 30 days prior with justification for the release. Obama chose to ignore that bit of law currently being recognized. Much like Obama ignores much of what the legislative branch does by by-stepping them with regularity with his Executive Order and pen in hand. Look if we have legislators who make law and it is signed into law by a sitting president, until it is changed it is the LAW. You can make a Constitutional argument against the law but that has yet to be done. To me it is just another asinine example of how this president has no respect for LAW. It also shows a lack of judgment when we are now negotiating with terrorists for the release of a so called prisoner and now all Americans oversees have become less safe for it.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I think you are not serious about this debate. Maybe you watch too much Homeland?
    Perhaps you don't read enough:

    Bergdahl, who was raised a devout Presbyterian, started talking about converting to Islam. Suspicious at first, his captors asked if it was out of fear or frustration that he wanted to convert.

    “He told us, ‘Your way of life has impressed me, and I want to live like you,’” said the commander.
    Bowe Bergdahl, America’s Only Prisoner Of War, Released - TIME


    No doubt you have issue with the source.

    BTW: You have not defined 'illegal laws.'
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Still waiting for our legal scholar to define 'illegal laws.'
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL and could lead to Obama's IMPEACHMENT | Mail Online

    Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it could lead to Obama's impeachment

    The president ignored a law – which he signed last year – requiring him to notify Congress 30 days before releasing anyone from Guantanamo Bay
    The Obama administration never told Capitol Hill until after Bergdahl was in American custody and the US Taliban prisoners were preparing to leave
    A former federal prosecutor told MailOnline that while the 30-day-notice law is probably unconstitutional, putting enemy combatants back in a position to harm Americans is an impeachable offense
    A White House insider said Obama administration officials didn't anticipate how controversial Bergdahl's rescue would be, and compared it to the 1981 release of 52 US hostages in Iran
    If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.
    Yes, this was an agreement he made with Congress.

    Ignoring the law is not a precedent for this administration. Obama and Hizzoner the Attorney General told states to ignore federal drug enforcement laws, laws that the federal government made and that the states enforce.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.
    Obama thinks he above the law.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.
    Maggie D would you believe it if it were news on CNN?

    Jeffrey Toobin: Obama ‘Clearly Broke the Law’ on Bergdahl | Mediaite

    CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin declared on Monday that President Barack Obama “broke the law” when his administration failed to give Congress notice of at least 30 days before releasing five ranking Taliban members from Guantanamo Bay. Toobin said that a presidential signing statement did not absolve Obama from culpability for failing to abide by the law mandating congressional notification.

    “I think he clearly broke the law,” Toobin said. “The law says 30-days’ notice. He didn’t give 30-days’ notice.” Toobin added that Obama’s opinion expressed in a signing statement “is not law.”

    it is impeachable BTW

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Obama thinks he above the law.
    The Republocrats in general believe themselves to be above the law. It's all f'n Judge Dredd for them. "I am the law!".
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    If that's true, why on EARTH would he do that?? Unbelievable. That it may be unconstitutional is almost besides the point. He signed it.
    Maybe he is like peloser and did not read it before signing it.

    https://video.search.yahoo.com/video...ca&age=0&&tt=b

    She should be kicked out of office for such a stupid admission that she does not read bills before voting on them.

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