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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Is that all you have? Ask Israel? Did they swap war criminals for a deserter?
    And the big difference with Israel is that every terrorist nation in the middle east fears Israel. No nation on the planet fears Obama.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Biden would be the incumbent president.

    Not very wise to impeach him.
    The steady stream of Biden gaffes would be hilarious though.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    States rights. Obama steps all over the 10th.
    States rights only goes so far. That is why the Articles of Confederation failed.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    States rights only goes so far. That is why the Articles of Confederation failed.
    They're specifically defined under the Tenth amendment.
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    Re: Kings, tyrants and those who really don't care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    As to American Law - I was wrong on that point. Under the Military Commissions Act an alien unlawful combatant can be tried by a military commission. Though I'm not sure if a military tribunal meets the Geneva Convention requirement for a "regularly constituted court"


    How about quoting me in context?

    On your first point I said "I guess my bottom line is that I really don't care whether they're soldiers as the word is defined by the Geneva conventions or civilians. The distinction doesn't matter in the real world. "
    And I went to say that the distinction doesn't matter because whether they lawful or unlawful combatants once returned to their people they can kill our soldiers.

    As I stated before the big complaint is that these 5 people will go out and kill our soldiers now. Well what about the THOUSANDS of soldiers we've swapped with the North Vietnamese, the North Koreans and the Germans? And that's just in this century. Was it somehow okay to let those people back on the field to potentially kill our soldiers simply because they wore a uniform? Arrant nonsense. If those exchanges were okay you cannot with any kind of logical consistency condemn this exchange, your position has not one shred of reasoning behind it and I conclude you object simply because you hate Obama.

    On my second statement, I don't care if Bergdahl is a deserter or not. But you see reasons matter. You left off my reasoning specifically to give the impression that I support the man. I do not.
    As I said before, he belongs here because if he isn't a deserter he deserves to be freed and a 5 for 1 swap is a good deal in my book. If he is a deserter he needs to face our military justice system and be punished for his crimes.

    If you are going to quote me in the future quote me in full. Having to say the same thing twice because you quote me out of context and and edited the crap out of my posts is tiresome and honestly makes you look childish.
    I quoted you just fine. I grayed out the thin veneer so what you were actually saying was clear.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    They're specifically defined under the Tenth amendment.
    No they aren't. They are defined in the rest of the Constitution. The 10th Amendment merely states that rights not defined in the Constitution belong to the States and to the people. But that has nothing to do with prisoner swaps, since we are talking about the military, which is run by the Federal government. Show me where states rights plays into this. Your answer ought to be very interesting. LOL.
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    Re: Kings, tyrants and those who really don't care

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    I quoted you just fine. I grayed out the thin veneer so what you were actually saying was clear.
    So you think your fellow DP'ers are so stupid that they need you to grey out my words so they can see my hidden meaning? Okay got it.
    No point in continuing this discussion.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    No they aren't. They are defined in the rest of the Constitution. The 10th Amendment merely states that rights not defined in the Constitution belong to the States and to the people. But that has nothing to do with prisoner swaps, since we are talking about the military, which is run by the Federal government. Show me where states rights plays into this. Your answer ought to be very interesting. LOL.
    Interesting. LP's comments were in response to Obamacare. Interfering in individual health decisions is not a Constitutional power. It may be a state power but it is certainly an individual power. Or rather it used to be.

    And on the topic you brought up...

    Has any president before this one ever swapped war criminals for a likely deserter?

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    Re: Kings, tyrants and those who really don't care

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    So you think your fellow DP'ers are so stupid that they need you to grey out my words so they can see my hidden meaning? Okay got it.
    No point in continuing this discussion.
    If they wished they could go back to see your entire statement.

    As far as being done that is a choice you have.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Misterveritis View Post
    Interesting. LP's comments were in response to Obamacare. Interfering in individual health decisions is not a Constitutional power. It may be a state power but it is certainly an individual power. Or rather it used to be.

    And on the topic you brought up...

    Has any president before this one ever swapped war criminals for a likely deserter?
    1) He shouldn't have tried to change the subject.

    2) We don't know that he is a deserter until he has been tried and convicted. Don't like it? Then move to Iran, where you will like the way things are run much better.
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