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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Maenad View Post
    Only Obama won't face the music because people are going to walk on eggshells until he is out of office.
    Which continues to be the ultimate strawman.
    Especially considering the thirteen committees and what no doubt will be another one on the prisoner exchange.
    And all the other new Cantor committees unforseen.
    No right-minded person considers what the Republicans are doing to Obama and his wife as "walking on eggshells" .
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    Complain all you want, but until this specific type of case is brought to court, presidents will continue to ignore laws that infringe on the executive branch. Once it is brought to court, and if found the president is in violation of the constitution, then such laws will never be signed. They will be vetoed. Now right now, I think most people accept of the way things are.

    Food for thought. Do you think that one president can sign a bill that relinquished the executive power granted by constitution, of the next president? This is why such a complaint will either not be tested in court, or lose if it is.

    Nobody has answered my question yet.

    Have you read the signing statement he made that I linked?
    Well, first, I'm not complaining, just saying what the law is. If you could go back to the other forum I was on before this one, you would have seen the same thing from me about Bush and his signing statements. That's why I knew about the court cases and could post them so fast, as well as the parts of the Constitution. This has been a pet peeve of mine for a while.

    And yes, I read the linked signing statement. In fact, I had read it a long time ago. As well as an EO he put out to his cabinet about signing statements. Not sure what your point in that one was though.

    Look, you and I agree on a lot of things on this board. This just happens to be one that we don't. I see it as a threat to our core, the threat of allowing a tyrannical autocrat to rule our country by fiat. So far, we haven't seen that come to pass, but we've come close, and the more it becomes accepted by the people, the less power we will have over our very lives. Obama has written far less signing statements than GWB did. However, Obama's have been more impactful to the American people personally, where GWB's were less so. That doesn't make GWB's any less threatening. The Congress is the representative of the People, the People's House. For a President to side step them and blatantly ignore them, is for him to do that to us, the people.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    he will never leave office, willingly. I see martial law before that ever happens.
    This is a Rush Limbaugh prediction right after the 2008 election.
    It removes you from being taken seriously .
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    I see it as a threat that congress puts their hands in so many things, to include making rules for the executive branch.

    This needs to stop.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    this is why they should make every law a single law and not tag crap on.
    Tell that to the House with their poison pills and legislative riders on their so-called "200" bills sitting in Harry reid's circular file.
    Practice what one preaches votemout .
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    I see it as a threat that congress puts their hands in so many things, to include making rules for the executive branch.

    This needs to stop.
    Putin doesn't have this problem.
    And he is so admired by today's GOP .
    I like your stuff in this thread .
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    Putin doesn't have this problem.
    And he is so admired by today's GOP .
    I like your stuff in this thread .
    LOL...

    We disagree rather often normally.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    LOL...
    We disagree rather often normally.
    It's as if Obama is the first President in a new USA.
    At least you have been fair-minded to show examples from the past.
    Good on you.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by NIMBY View Post
    It's as if Obama is the first President in a new USA.
    At least you have been fair-minded to show examples from the past.
    Good on you.
    I dislike this president with a passion. It is the presidency I an standing up for, not him. I truly believe we cannot make it precedent that congress can dictate executive branch function.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by X Factor View Post
    Yeah, remember how the right was fully destroyed and no longer exists? Oh wait, that was in your dreams.
    X, he did not say the right was fully destroyed nor did he say the right no longer exists.
    But when he said he didn't follow, that surely applied to you.
    and nat no time can you pr5ove it was in his dreams .
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