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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

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    I'm sorry but this president has taken such liberties in what law he will execute and uphold and what laws he will not.
    And as executor of law, he has that right.

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    He certainly hasn't fulfilled his oath to defend and uphold the Constitution.
    I agree with you here, but this is a different issue. Laws passed by congress are subordinate to the constitution, and he is the executor or law.

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    Just last month Obama signed Ted Cruz's bill that would bar an Iranian diplomat from entering the United States, but immediately issued a statement saying he won't enforce it. What kind of happy horse crap is that?
    Was it a stand alone law, or included in a larger package of laws he agreed with?

    What does his signing statement attached to that law say? Did you even think to look it up?

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    You can't cherry pick, dissect laws to your liking and disregard the rest. This is an abuse of power. Especially if the one signing the bills is doing such!
    Obama signs Ted Cruz bill into law, but says he won't enforce it | WashingtonExaminer.com
    Sure he can. That is his prerogative as the executor of law in this nation. That is also a reason you don't elect idiots like Obama to the highest office in this nation.

    Blame the people who put him in office.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    Hmmm....did you perhaps the post where I stated that the President probably has a Constitutional duty to not enforce laws he believes to be unconstitutional?
    Probably??? The SC determines the constitutionality of laws not the president--unless you prefer a king. There is really no excuse for NOT notifying congress and following the law he, himself, signed. The role of the president is to 'faithfully execute' the laws of the land not follow only the ones he wishes to follow. Not sure why anyone in their right mind would defend this sort of thing.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Gaius46 View Post
    This president isn't as bad as his predecessor was. Are you similarly critical of him?

    edit: withdrawn. you answered.
    Yea bush sucked also, I see a trend.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    And as executor of law, he has that right.


    I agree with you here, but this is a different issue. Laws passed by congress are subordinate to the constitution, and he is the executor or law.


    Was it a stand alone law, or included in a larger package of laws he agreed with?

    What does his signing statement attached to that law say? Did you even think to look it up?


    Sure he can. That is his prerogative as the executor of law in this nation. That is also a reason you don't elect idiots like Obama to the highest office in this nation.

    Blame the people who put him in office.
    It is only his prerogative because of recent history. It was never the intent of the founders for the president to sign a bill into law and then blatantly claim he will not honor it in full or at all. And if you can find such an occurrence other than recent history including the 1960's forward, I will gladly step down. Good luck.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    And as executor of law, he has that right.


    I agree with you here, but this is a different issue. Laws passed by congress are subordinate to the constitution, and he is the executor or law.


    Was it a stand alone law, or included in a larger package of laws he agreed with?

    What does his signing statement attached to that law say? Did you even think to look it up?


    Sure he can. That is his prerogative as the executor of law in this nation. That is also a reason you don't elect idiots like Obama to the highest office in this nation.

    Blame the people who put him in office.
    The executor of the law does not have the power to decide which laws are constitutional and, therefore, which ones he will follow and which ones he will ignore. That is tyranny. If Obama felt something in this law was unconstitutional, he should have had his AG pursue a review.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Probably??? The SC determines the constitutionality of laws not the president--unless you prefer a king. There is really no excuse for NOT notifying congress and following the law he, himself, signed. The role of the president is to 'faithfully execute' the laws of the land not follow only the ones he wishes to follow. Not sure why anyone in their right mind would defend this sort of thing.
    Because much like that stupid House rep from Texas, they do not even know or understand how our government works. Here is sheila jackson lee stating we they the lawmakers should write obummers executive orders!! are you freaking kidding me!!!!! But she also thinks our Constitution is 400 years old so whatever.

    Lawmaker: Congress Should Write Executive Orders for Obama to Sign

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Lord of Planar View Post
    And as executor of law, he has that right.


    I agree with you here, but this is a different issue. Laws passed by congress are subordinate to the constitution, and he is the executor or law.


    Was it a stand alone law, or included in a larger package of laws he agreed with?

    What does his signing statement attached to that law say? Did you even think to look it up?


    Sure he can. That is his prerogative as the executor of law in this nation. That is also a reason you don't elect idiots like Obama to the highest office in this nation.

    Blame the people who put him in office.

    No he can not pick and choose which laws to obey and which to ignore, Do you have a right to ignore laws you dont like? OF COURSE NOT.

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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    Probably??? The SC determines the constitutionality of laws not the president--unless you prefer a king. There is really no excuse for NOT notifying congress and following the law he, himself, signed. The role of the president is to 'faithfully execute' the laws of the land not follow only the ones he wishes to follow. Not sure why anyone in their right mind would defend this sort of thing.
    And the President swears an oath to preserve the constitution. That oath would seem to require him to not enforce laws he found unconstitutional - until the SC weighed in on the matter.

    Look at it this way. Say the Legislature re-instituted slavery and overrode the President's veto. Is the President obligated to enforce that law until the SC gets around to declaring it unconstitutional?
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by Fletch View Post
    The executor of the law does not have the power to decide which laws are constitutional and, therefore, which ones he will follow and which ones he will ignore. That is tyranny. If Obama felt something in this law was unconstitutional, he should have had his AG pursue a review.
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    Re: Taliban prisoner swap was ILLEGAL claims GOP as former federal prosecutor says it

    Quote Originally Posted by votemout View Post
    [url=http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2646425/Taliban-prisoner-swap-ILLEGAL-claims-GOP-former-federal-prosecutor-claims-lead-Obamas-IMPEACHMENT.html]
    A White House insider said Obama administration officials didn't anticipate how controversial Bergdahl's rescue would be, and compared it to the 1981 release of 52 US hostages in Iran
    I strongly dislike when an "insider" is a source. I wish that the media would get a source on the record.

    Bergdahl's "resuce" is nothing like the release of diplomatic hostages.

    I seldom agree with McCain, but the ante just went up on taking US military hostage.

    Is the report that Bergdahl deserted confirmed?

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