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Parents of fallen soldier: Our son died looking for Bergdahl and the military lied to

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Hint: Don't hold your breath! :lamo: Feinstein is just doing her job for her boss, trying to garner sympathy - did you expect less?

I actually think Obama must be ready to throttle her right now. Instead of making him look good, she's making him look really really bad. Obama's apparently been calling her to apologize for his transgressions.



"He was undernourished, not necessarily malnourished," echoed Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the panel's Democratic chair, citing an assessment from a few months ago. "Unless something catastrophic happened, I think there was no reason to believe he was in instant danger. There certainly was time to pick up the phone and call."

Both senators slammed the administration's disregard for Congress after attending a classified briefing with intelligence officials Tuesday.

Feinstein said she and Chambliss wrote classified letters to President Barack Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton in late 2011 and early 2012 expressing their opposition to the transfer of high-level detainees to Qatar as part of the proposed deal to free Bergdahl. The top House Republican and Democrat for intelligence also signed on.

Clinton responded by promising further consultation before making the exchange, Feinstein said, but no subsequent talks or notification ever occurred. Feinstein said the administration knew it must notify Congress at least 30 days in advance.

"Our views were clearly translated," Feinstein told reporters. "So it comes with some surprise and dismay that the transfers went ahead with no consultation, totally not following the law."




Congress kept in dark on Bergdahl swap since 2012
 
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Considering it was a propaganda piece for the taliban, I thought he looked very calm. In fact, his apprehension was probably brought on by finally having to face the music for walking off from his unit.

He sure looked healthy, didnt he? Rosy cheeks, and all. Bet next time we see him he's in a wheelchair. Obama will need a lot of props to make this guy look sick. He appears healthy as a horse.

Yes I watched the video this morning and he looked exceptionally healthy. Obama used the international stage to further the story of Bergdahl's poor health in Warsaw this week. The very next day his water boy Carney avoided a question about the condition of Bergdahl. now we know why.

 
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Yes I watched the video this morning and he looked exceptionally healthy. Obama used the international stage to further the story of Bergdahl's poor health in Warsaw this week. The very next day his water boy Carney avoided a question about the condition of Bergdahl. now we know why.



I'll miss Carney. He's always good for a laugh. I hope the next Chief Propogandist is half this entertaining.
 
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I actually think Obama must be ready to throttle her right now. Instead of making him look good, she's making him look really really bad. Obama's apparently been calling her to apologize for his transgressions.



"He was undernourished, not necessarily malnourished," echoed Sen. Dianne Feinstein, the panel's Democratic chair, citing an assessment from a few months ago. "Unless something catastrophic happened, I think there was no reason to believe he was in instant danger. There certainly was time to pick up the phone and call."

Both senators slammed the administration's disregard for Congress after attending a classified briefing with intelligence officials Tuesday.

Feinstein said she and Chambliss wrote classified letters to President Barack Obama and then-Secretary of State Hillary Rodham Clinton in late 2011 and early 2012 expressing their opposition to the transfer of high-level detainees to Qatar as part of the proposed deal to free Bergdahl. The top House Republican and Democrat for intelligence also signed on.

Clinton responded by promising further consultation before making the exchange, Feinstein said, but no subsequent talks or notification ever occurred. Feinstein said the administration knew it must notify Congress at least 30 days in advance.

"Our views were clearly translated," Feinstein told reporters. "So it comes with some surprise and dismay that the transfers went ahead with no consultation, totally not following the law."




Congress kept in dark on Bergdahl swap since 2012

Interesting things coming out now, huh?. Especially her comment that Obama was "totally not following the law."

Greetings, tres borrrachos. :2wave:
 
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Interesting things coming out now, huh?. Especially her comment that Obama was "totally not following the law."

Greetings, tres borrrachos. :2wave:

Good morning Pol! I can only imagine how Obama is handling her very public criticism. Watch, she'll end up backing off and next thing you know she'll land some plumb Ambassadorship.
 
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Even Dianne Feinstein has publicly commented that he appears "undernourished" not malnourished.

She would probably say the same thing about me as I am very tall and skinny. I wonder if Obama is going to show concern about me?

Offering Feinstein as some sort of credible authority about anything is rather like offering Charles Manson as some sort of moral arbiter, no? ;)
 
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Offering Feinstein as some sort of credible authority about anything is rather like offering Charles Manson as some sort of moral arbiter, no? ;)

So she's lying?
 
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Good morning Pol! I can only imagine how Obama is handling her very public criticism. Watch, she'll end up backing off and next thing you know she'll land some plumb Ambassadorship.

If she's as smart as she thinks she is - she'll decline! The Afghan government is p***ed because they weren't consulted; five terrorists who hate us and the Shi-ites in Afghanistan were released, free to kill again; Qatar is being accused of not adhering to International Law for their roll in all this; the parents whose sons were killed trying to find Bergdahl want answers, Congress wants to know why they weren't told, and the public wants to know the reasons why this was done in the first place! Have I covered everything? :mrgreen:
 
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If she's as smart as she thinks she is - she'll decline! The Afghan government is p***ed because they weren't consulted; five terrorists who hate us and the Shi-ites in Afghanistan were released, free to kill again; Qatar is being accused of not adhering to International Law for their roll in all this; the parents whose sons were killed trying to find Bergdahl want answers, Congress wants to know why they weren't told, and the public wants to know the reasons why this was done in the first place! Have I covered everything? :mrgreen:

I think you did a fine job. :thumbs:
 
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So she's lying?

In the statement you quoted, she is offering an opinion, not a true or false statement.

I was slamming her because I consider her a traitor to the US Constitution.
 
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I'll miss Carney. He's always good for a laugh. I hope the next Chief Propogandist is half this entertaining.

Speaking of propogandists, we can't forget Susan Rice. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't she the one that got the whole story rolling about Bergdahl being in poor health this past Sunday on doing the rounds in the media?

She said Bergdahl’s health and safety appeared in jeopardy, prompting rapid action. “Had we waited and lost him,” said national security adviser Susan Rice, “I don’t think anybody would have forgiven the United States government.” Considering she also is the one who willingly propagandized a YouTube video to be the cause for the attacks in Benghazi to the same Sunday media, I'd have to say in all fairness Rice and Carney will have to share the first place award for Chief Propogandist.
 
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In the statement you quoted, she is offering an opinion, not a true or false statement.

I was slamming her because I consider her a traitor to the US Constitution.

So she isn't entitled to her opinion about a public figure whose health was instrumental in this story?
 
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Speaking of propogandists, we can't forget Susan Rice. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't she the one that got the whole story rolling about Bergdahl being in poor health this past Sunday on doing the rounds in the media?

She said Bergdahl’s health and safety appeared in jeopardy, prompting rapid action. “Had we waited and lost him,” said national security adviser Susan Rice, “I don’t think anybody would have forgiven the United States government.” Considering she also is the one who willingly propagandized a YouTube video to be the cause for the attacks in Benghazi to the same Sunday media, I'd have to say in all fairness Rice and Carney will have to share the first place award for Chief Propogandist.

I think Rice actually outshines Carney in that role. You'd think she would have learned her lesson the first time she was sent out to lie. She's not too bright, apparently.
 
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So she isn't entitled to her opinion about a public figure whose health was instrumental in this story?

She is absolutely entitled to her opinion on any subject matter at all.

I just take anything she says about government operations with a large teaspoonful of salt. ;)
 
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I think Rice actually outshines Carney in that role. You'd think she would have learned her lesson the first time she was sent out to lie. She's not too bright, apparently.

And she's a national security adviser............ goes to the heart of the feckless policies this administration has engaged.
 
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There is nothing better about the GOP dancing on every grave they can find .

The administration had eyes on Bergdahl for 3 months. Why did they wait?
 
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Some of the families have doubt that their son(s) were killed searching for Bergdahl......



"....Army Staff Sgt. Kurt Curtiss, of Murray, died Aug. 26, 2009, in Afghanistan — nine weeks after Bergdahl’s disappearance. Some of Curtiss’s comrades came forward Monday to say Curtiss and five other soldiers died in searches for Bergdahl......

I would like to know his side of the story," Ken Black, Curtiss’ father-in-law, said Tuesday of Bergdahl. "I’m not going to judge anything in regards to this individual." .....

Curtiss’ widow, Elizabeth Ivory, spoke to NBC’s "Today Show" in a segment that aired Tuesday morning. She said she is not certain her late husband actually died searching for Bergdahl. .....

Curtiss and Bergdahl were both assigned to the 1st Battalion, 501st Infantry Regiment, 4th Brigade Combat Team, 25th Infantry Division.

Black, who lives in West Valley City, said his family did not know anything about his son-in-law and the Bergdahl search until after Bergdahl’s release over the weekend.

The Army had told his family, Black said, that Curtiss died searching for al-Qaida members who had taken refuge in a medical clinic. Curtiss died from gunshot wounds.

A video posted on Youtube in 2011 claims to show Curtiss kicking in the medical clinic door moments before his death. Soldiers then describe Curtiss’ death and retrieving his body. The narration says the soldiers were looking for a Taliban member.
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Family of killed Utah soldier has questions about Bowe Bergdahl | The Salt Lake Tribune



It's on a YouTube video that Sgt. Curtiss didn't die searching for Bergdahl. Now I wonder what the army told the other families about their son's deaths and just who is telling the truth.

One very outspoken soldier is claiming that Bergdahl left his post in the middle of night.....but if he knew that then why didn't he report it instead of waiting until morning roll call?

The men in that unit say those soldiers died looking for Bergdahl. Thats a credible source.
 
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if that is the case ( still skeptical on the evidence and circumstances) then he should go to court, however that doesnt change the fact that they had to try and rescue him.

"Rear Adm. John F. Kirby, the Pentagon spokesman, said that there was a larger matter at play: The American military does not leave soldiers behind. “When you’re in the Navy, and you go overboard, it doesn’t matter if you were pushed, fell or jumped,” he said. “We’re going to turn the ship around and pick you up.”

The "no man left behind" creedo doesn't apply to deserters. It cheepns the idea to say that it does.
 
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Ah, so THIS is the newest faux outrage from the Right. I'm sure they were glad to get their hands on this after they saw that endlessly screaming "Benghazi!" or whining about Obamacare was no longer working. And their behavior is mind-numbingly predictable, as is their hypocrisy.
 
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Do you repeat this post in every Bergdahl thread, calling Bergdahl a dangerous Islamic terrorist before he gets his day in court?
Typical Republican injustice since Obama came in, guilty until proven innocent .

Republicans have been desperately hoping to catch Obama in a major scandal since the day he took office. They would rather sacrifice the reputation of this nation than let Obama receive any kind of praise for anything.
 
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Ah, so THIS is the newest faux outrage from the Right. I'm sure they were glad to get their hands on this after they saw that endlessly screaming "Benghazi!" or whining about Obamacare was no longer working. And their behavior is mind-numbingly predictable, as is their hypocrisy.

Not near as excited as the administration is for VA-gate to get bumped from the headlines.
 
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Not that the right-wing cares remotely, but this is what Bergdahl thought of his platoon (sent to his parents via email):

“We don’t even care when we hear each other talk about running their children down in the dirt streets with our armored trucks … We make fun of them in front of their faces, and laugh at them for not understanding we are insulting them.”

I can see why he became disillusioned with the military. He wanted to help the Afghans, and that's what the military promised he could do when they recruited him.
 
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Do you repeat this post in every Bergdahl thread, calling Bergdahl a dangerous Islamic terrorist before he gets his day in court?
Typical Republican injustice since Obama came in, guilty until proven innocent .
As more and more vets WHO WERE THERE come out with the details of what happened in risk of violating a gag order, no trial is needed for them to pass judgment. Unit leaders reported a letter left behind by Bergdahl renouncing his citizenship. (his personal emails validate someone being ashamed of being an American) They also reported receiving a cell phone call from him verifying he had deserted. A couple days after he went AWOl they picked up chatter about an American wishing to speak to the Taliban just 2 miles from their post. After Bergdahl went AWOl the mission of the entire unit changed with all resources directed at finding him which put them in places where they were never intended to go and soldiers lost their lives. Now you can go ahead and try and make this about a unjustifiable Republican witchhunt all you want but it isn't going to fly. Thank God for the Vets coming forward with their testimonies of events because so far what this administration has told us amounts to a crap sandwich.
 
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Cody Full (from Bergdahl's platoon) is saying that Berdgahl wanted to cut the faces off fallen Taliban and wear it as a mask. Sounds like something a Buddhist philosopher would say.
 
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