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    Read Snowden’s comments on 9/11 that NBC didn’t broadcast

    Only around a quarter of the recent NBC News interview with former intelligence contractor Edward Snowden made it to broadcast, but unaired excerpts now online show that the network neglected to air critical statements about the 9/11 terrorist attacks.

    When the four-hour sit-down between journalist Brian Williams and Snowden made it to air on Wednesday night, NBC condensed roughly four hours of conversation into a 60-minute time slot. During an analysis of the full interview afterwards, however, the network showed portions of the interview that didn’t make it into the primetime broadcast, including remarks from the former National Security Agency contractor in which he questioned the American intelligence community’s inability to stop the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks.
    In response to a question from Williams concerning a “non-traditional enemy,” Al-Qaeda, and how to prevent further attacks from that organization and others, Snowden suggested that United States had the proper intelligence ahead of 9/11 but failed to act.
    “You know, and this is a key question that the 9/11 Commission considered. And what they found, in the post-mortem, when they looked at all of the classified intelligence from all of the different intelligence agencies, they found that we had all of the information we needed as an intelligence community, as a classified sector, as the national defense of the United States to detect this plot,” Snowden said. “We actually had records of the phone calls from the United States and out. The CIA knew who these guys were. The problem was not that we weren’t collecting information, it wasn’t that we didn’t have enough dots, it wasn’t that we didn’t have a haystack, it was that we did not understand the haystack that we have.”
    “The problem with mass surveillance is that we’re piling more hay on a haystack we already don’t understand, and this is the haystack of the human lives of every American citizen in our country,” Snowden continued. “If these programs aren’t keeping us safe, and they’re making us miss connections — vital connections — on information we already have, if we’re taking resources away from traditional methods of investigation, from law enforcement operations that we know work, if we’re missing things like the Boston Marathon bombings where all of these mass surveillance systems, every domestic dragnet in the world didn’t reveal guys that the Russian intelligence service told us about by name, is that really the best way to protect our country? Or are we — are we trying to throw money at a magic solution that’s actually not just costing us our safety, but our rights and our way of life?
    Indeed, the director of the NSA during Snowden’s stint there, Gen. Keith Alexander, reportedly endorsed a method of intelligence gathering in which the agency would collect quite literally all the digital information it was capable of.
    “Rather than look for a single needle in the haystack, his approach was, ‘Let’s collect the whole haystack,’”one former senior US intelligence official recently told the Washington Post. “Collect it all, tag it, store it. . . .And whatever it is you want, you go searching for it.”


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    Some unaired comments from the recent Snowden interview. Apparently we had all the info we needed on these 9/11 terrorists, but it was that we just had so much info that we dont know what to do with it. We have so much info now, the NSA doesnt know how to handle it all.


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    more ludicrosity from Snowden. The 9/11 Commission found that we had erected walls within our IC that kept different analysts from being able to share the information, meaning that while we had the picture necessary to stop the plot, we had it broken into pieces and had our system structured in such a way as to guarantee it wouldn't be pieced together.

    IOW, it was exactly the kind of barriers that Snowden's fans want to resurrect that kept us from being able to stop 9/11.

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    Re: Read Snowden’s comments on 9/11 that NBC didn’t broadcast

    I don't think the 9-11 Commission said we needed to haul every bit of data available into a huge heap and then wonder how to sort through it.

    I believe what they said is both the FBI and CIA had a corporate mentality and not very efficient. Both agencies missed key red flags- CIA the Air France flight 8969 hijacking, and the FBI field report on strange training requests from a group of Arab speakers. For sure the FBI field report didn't need any massive data roundup, just the supervisors doing a more diligent job.

    More to the point would be a central agency that acted as a blackout baffle between domestic agencies and over seas intel activities. Someone who saw all the data but didn't allow the CIA to break it's no internal spying mandate.

    Intelligent intelligence gathering would be better than massive intelligence gathering. Relying on a process and not emphasizing human deduction will always be second best. Again the FBI had the vital information to stop 9-11 on a supervisor's desk, gathered the old fashion investigative way- but would it have surfaced in a literal sea of raw data? People tasked with the job of domestic security acting like there is a purpose to their mission would have done the job, the predictable over reaction to a simple human failure has resulted in a monstrosity in money and accountability.

    Problem with a huge unmanageable pile of data collected on many citizens who are not in any way valid terrorist leads is their data is in one massive pile for miners to dig through and little oversight on just who and why all the digging is going on.

    I don't think it is Big Brother watching, more than dull brother fumbling around while scheming cousin rummages through the data for his own benefit.

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    Re: Read Snowden’s comments on 9/11 that NBC didn’t broadcast

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    Some unaired comments from the recent Snowden interview. Apparently we had all the info we needed on these 9/11 terrorists, but it was that we just had so much info that we dont know what to do with it. We have so much info now, the NSA doesnt know how to handle it all. [/I][/FONT][/COLOR]
    Good points. Leave it to the major news organs of the United States to leave out the important stuff that matters. It's no wonder Snowden won the Sam Adam's award for integrity in intelligence from former CIA officials.

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    Re: Read Snowden’s comments on 9/11 that NBC didn’t broadcast

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    Some unaired comments from the recent Snowden interview. Apparently we had all the info we needed on these 9/11 terrorists, but it was that we just had so much info that we dont know what to do with it. We have so much info now, the NSA doesnt know how to handle it all. [/I][/FONT][/COLOR]
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    A traitor is a credible source?
    Not only that but quote comes from RT news.

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    Re: Read Snowden’s comments on 9/11 that NBC didn’t broadcast

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    more ludicrosity from Snowden. The 9/11 Commission found that we had erected walls within our IC that kept different analysts from being able to share the information, meaning that while we had the picture necessary to stop the plot, we had it broken into pieces and had our system structured in such a way as to guarantee it wouldn't be pieced together.

    IOW, it was exactly the kind of barriers that Snowden's fans want to resurrect that kept us from being able to stop 9/11.
    Yes of course, and we know that the 911 Commission had a monopoly on truth finding and truth telling.

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